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R.I.P. Gregorio Fuentes

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by Smart, Jan 14, 2002.

  1. Smart

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    R.I.P. Gregorio Fuentes

    Discussion started by Smart - Jan 14, 2002

    the old man is dead... he was 104.
     
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    graffsurgeon - Replied Jan 14, 2002

    is that the cat that was on leno or lettterman..he looked like he was 50 or someshit
     
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    Smart - Replied Jan 14, 2002

    no, it's 'the old man' from 'The Old Man and the Sea' by Hemingway... Gregorio was a truly heroic man. In life, as in the book, he was a fisherman, if you see any pictures of him, look at his hands and arms, they tell the story of a lifetime on the ocean in a small boat. I know that he was still fishing regularly about 15 years ago...

    I don't believe he ever came to the United States, him being Cuban and all...
     
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  4. imported_Tesseract - Replied Jan 14, 2002

    RIP Gregorio,
    ...weird i saw an interview of the old man like a month ago.Mostly talkin about his life and his friendship with Heminway.
    RIP
     
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    Smart - Replied Jan 15, 2002

    it would not be an understatement to call them best friends, Hemingway maintained a steady stream of corespondence until is death...

    the book is literally a portrait of Gregorio, Hemingway met him in Cuba, and Gregorio taught him how to fish Cuban waters, passing down centuries old knowledge... this was not lost on Hemingway. Of all the people Hemingway met in the war and in Europe afterwards... Gregorio was the person who became Hemingway's hero. A ham-n-egger who fished as much for love as for food.
     
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  6. imported_Tesseract - Replied Jan 15, 2002

    RIP

    Bump! for great storys, fictional or not.
     
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    T.T Boy - Replied Jan 15, 2002

    wow i never knew he was friends with hemingway. too bad he passed on. more stories.

    r.i.p
     
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  8. imported_Tesseract - Replied Jan 15, 2002

    He commited suicide, RIP for him to.
     
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    Smart - Replied Jan 15, 2002

    Hemingway shot himself in the face with a shotgun, while his family was upstairs. It was at the house in Idaho where Hemingway spent most of his time after being recalled from Cuba. He was bitterly depressed about having to leave the island.

    He also believed that he was being followed and investigated by McCarthy's FBI. This was denied by the government. It was later proven that he was under investigation by the House Un-American Activities Bureau. This was said to be due to Hemingway's initial support of Castro, even though, at the time, Castro enjoyed the support of the American government as well.

    Another fact, later proven true as government documents were declassified, was that during WWII Hemingway was a spy for the U.S. navy. His 'fishing' boat was also fitted with all sorts of sub-scoping devices. His 'fishing trips' were also reconnaissance missions as well. I think these two things help illustrate some pretty solid facts to support Hemingway's idea that his government had turned against him, dismissed at the time as the ravings of a man going mad.

    At the same time, Hemingway was seeking psychiatric treatment for the depression. It was suggested that maybe he was getting paranoid because he kept seeing FBI guys following him and swore his phones were tapped, all true... So, electro-shock therapy was administered. EST was the 'new thing' for psychiatrists at the time. It was said to create a 'mild state of placid catatonia'. Of course, it basically just fried synapses. This was also, understandably, a period of low creativity for him as well. All of these things happened in the 3 (or so) years after his return from Cuba and ended in his death.

    So, while he undeniably commited suicide, I would have you believe that our freindly government had a hand in it as well...
     
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  10. imported_Tesseract - Replied Jan 16, 2002

    BUMP!
    This is one of the best threads ever,
    Smart, you're in to Salinger to?
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jan 16, 2002

    ...nice smart, i saw this yesterday too...104 years old...man i wish i coulda had one marlin trip with that bodhi...rip, and may the fish always bite...
     
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  12. Dusty Lipschitz - Replied Jan 16, 2002

    just wanna give my nigga ted demme a RIP shout too...
     
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    mental invalid - Replied Jan 16, 2002

    ...yeah fucked up, so that too yesterday...dam, dood was runnin some ball and had a fucking heart attack at 38...geesh...rip...
     
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