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pigeons, water and jersey city

Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by yoshy, Sep 19, 2002.

  1. yoshy

    yoshy 12oz Member

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    pigeons, water and jersey city

    Discussion started by yoshy - Sep 19, 2002

    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/09/19/nyregion...ae0351250be7b55

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    A Tribute Gone Awry, on the Wings of Pigeons
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    > September 19, 2002
    > By RICHARD LEZIN JONES
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    > JERSEY CITY, Sept. 18 - It was meant to be a dignified
    > tribute on Sept. 11: a flock of doves soaring majestically
    > past Lower Manhattan's altered skyline. There was only one
    > problem. Those weren't doves. They were pigeons. And many
    > of them couldn't fly.
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    > During the memorial service here last week, many of the
    > birds plunged into the Hudson River, smacked into
    > plate-glass windows on office buildings and careered into
    > the crowd. One perched atop the hard hat of a construction
    > worker whose company had helped clear ground zero.
    >
    > Since the ceremony, animal rights advocates and others have
    > been trying to rescue the birds and roast the organizers.
    >
    > For their part, organizers said they had tried to hire a
    > company to conduct a professional bird release, in which
    > trained doves or homing pigeons would soar high in the sky
    > and then return to their owner's roost. But the pros were
    > already booked for 9/11 this year. So the organizers turned
    > instead to a Newark poultry market and bought 80 squabs,
    > not knowing that the weak-winged birds would have trouble
    > flying.
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    > Despite the problem at the memorial, which was first
    > reported today in The Jersey Journal, one organizer said
    > today that most of the birds are better off now than they
    > would have been had they remained at the poultry market.
    >
    > "Without a doubt it beats what could have happened to
    > them," said Guy Catrillo, a chief organizer of Jersey
    > City's 9/11 Memorial Committee.
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    > "They were squab; they were soup birds. I like the idea
    > that I helped these squab get another chance."
    >
    > Animal advocates, however, said that second chance may have
    > come at too great a cost.
    >
    > "I don't know how anyone could be so short-sighted,
    > especially for 9/11," said Ellen Goldberg, a teacher at the
    > Raptor Trust, a nonprofit bird hospital in Millington,
    > N.J., that is treating two birds that were released during
    > the ceremony.
    >
    > "Every year," she said, "we have to deal with 3,000 birds,
    > including 300 pigeons. We get sick birds, injured birds,
    > birds that have been shot. We thought we'd seen it all.
    > We've never seen this before."
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    > It all began, Mr. Catrillo said, when he started calling
    > the handful of New Jersey companies that offer professional
    > bird releases.
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    > "They called me looking for birds for their ceremony," said
    > Lisette Hall, owner of Doves for Love, a company in
    > Somerset, N.J. "They wanted our doves. We were all booked,
    > but they were desperate for birds. They said, `Well, please
    > call us if you have any last-minute availability."'
    >
    > Ms. Hall, who had already committed to two other memorial
    > services, did not.
    >
    > So, Mr. Catrillo said, the Jersey City organizers went to
    > the poultry shop. "I don't remember the name," Mr. Catrillo
    > said. "I know it was Portuguese." They took delivery of 80
    > birds on Sept. 10, just hours before the 8 a.m. memorial
    > service at Exchange Place on the waterfront.
    >
    > "We were going to release the pigeons during the unveiling
    > of the 9/11 memorial," he said. "The pigeons were supposed
    > to fly."
    >
    > Instead, the birds, which Ms. Goldberg said might never
    > before in their young lives have spent significant time
    > outside their cages, turned the ceremony into a blur of
    > feathers and confusion.
    >
    > "When they let the birds out, they seemed not to know how
    > to fly," recalled Susan Ryan, 39, who attended the ceremony
    > with a co-worker, Nuria Almeida. "They flew into buildings.
    > One flew right into the water."
    >
    > Ms. Almeida, 30, said the program continued, awkwardly,
    > despite the birds. "A lot of people were upset because they
    > didn't want them sitting on their heads, and they were
    > swatting them away," she said.
    >
    > The two co-workers said they remembered one bird that
    > bobbed across the stage. Mr. Catrillo took a snapshot of
    > another perched on the hard hat of an iron worker. The body
    > of another was later fished out of the Hudson.
    >
    > The women were so struck by the pigeons' plight that they
    > returned to the site of the memorial service after work
    > that day and gently placed two of the birds in a shoe box,
    > then took them to the Raptor Trust.
    >
    > Ms. Goldberg said that the birds appeared undernourished
    > and that hospital workers were trying to fatten them up.
    > The fate of the others is unknown, although Mr. Catrillo
    > said he had seen several.
    >
    > "I saw one today who lives by a hot-dog cart," he said. "I
    > tried to catch him. But he flew away. Pigeons are natural
    > survivors."
    >
    > And despite what he called "snide comments" about the
    > release, Mr. Catrillo said he already had plans for next
    > year's memorial service.
    >
    > "I'm going to release monarch butterflies," he said. "But
    > I'm sure there's some group somewhere who will say that
    > that's the wrong thing to do, too."
     
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    nomadawhat - Replied Sep 19, 2002

    oh the poor cute little pidgeons..... they got them from a fucking poultry shop, they were going to get killed....fucking animal activist are weird sometimes....
     
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    •nakone• - Replied Sep 19, 2002

    thats JC for you
     
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    Brownbread? - Replied Sep 20, 2002

    thats why you dont buy shit from newark. back in the day i bought a sega cd from some shady store up there. Me thinking i just got a nice deal, i come home, open the box and the whole thing was broken.
     
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    deznatori - Replied Sep 20, 2002

    The thing that bothers me the most is the fact that they were going to use Pigeons for meat. Rats with wings for food. I think I am about to puke. One of the sickest things I have heard in a long time. I think that is worse than the Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich.


    -For those who don't know
    Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwich= taking a dump in a girl's box when she is on the rag and then eating her out
     
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