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Discussion in 'Channel Zero' started by [email protected]@N, Mar 21, 2003.

  1. S@T@N

    [email protected]@N Senior Member

    Joined: Sep 15, 2002 Messages: 1,998 Likes Received: 0
    So I'm watching this about 5 minutes ago and it's the live feed of the
    USS Kittyhawk. They're taking calls from people across the country on
    a poll of people supporting or opposing the war.... anyway, to the point.
    They take this call from Florida, and this kid comes on with a crappy
    middle eastern accent and says this, I shit you not, on live CSPAN

    "I am from the Middle East and I strongly oppose this war. The reason I
    oppose this war is because of the animals. The Americans are coming-
    they're coming to the middle east and they are kicking the-" and he
    is cut off. The whole time you can hear snickering and laughing in the
    background; apparently, this was a group of college kids fuckin with live
    TV. I haven't laughed so hard at my TV in a really fucking long time.

    So to my question: if you're watching coverage, what do you watch?
    C-SPAN and Fox are my picks.
  2. duh-rye-won

    duh-rye-won Guest

    news on TV is like watching a fucking soap opera


    Joined: Apr 30, 2002 Messages: 711 Likes Received: 0
    bbc world is alright. a tad bit more worldly than a lot of stuff being shown by the cheerleading media of the U.S.
    www.moveon.org i think is good too...there's another i can't think of now but i'll post it later. whichever ones are making an effort to get the truth out there, and you'll know when you come across one.
  4. Grant_Wood

    Grant_Wood Banned

    Joined: Mar 4, 2003 Messages: 589 Likes Received: 0
  5. Grant_Wood

    Grant_Wood Banned

    Joined: Mar 4, 2003 Messages: 589 Likes Received: 0
    for example, this was not all over the news today, becuase it was practically americas fault in the first place giving the israelis weapons, had it been all over the news today, like it shoould have, then there would probably be a thread on it

    American killed in Gaza
    By Nicole Gaouette | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
    JERUSALEM – The death of an American peace protester in the Gaza
    Strip Sunday is raising questions about the Israeli army's use of force
    and highlighting the risks international activists take to slow the
    steady violence that characterizes the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    Rachel Corrie, a student at Evergreen College in Olympia, Wash.,
    died trying to prevent an Israeli army bulldozer from demolishing a
    house in Rafah, where Gaza abuts the Egyptian border.

    "We were expecting something to
    happen, especially down at Rafah," says
    Marlous, a Dutch woman who
    occasionally participated in protests with
    Ms. Corrie. Marlous, who works for a
    Palestinian organization in the West
    Bank, said protesters had been
    increasingly wary of Israeli army tactics.
    "This is the first death. It's hard to

    James Delano, a documentary filmmaker
    from Honolulu who had participated in missions with Corrie, said she
    wasn't prone to take unnecessary risks. "I wouldn't describe her as a
    zealot," he says. "Rachel was passionate about her work. She was
    an intelligent, caring human being. I'm sure she was doing what she
    saw as a reasonable action."

    Rafah is the scene of frequent unrest. Israelis say weapons are
    smuggled across the border from Egypt and that Palestinians use
    houses in the area to fire on its troops.

    Corrie, who was a member of the Palestinian-backed International
    Solidarity Movement, was standing in front of a house wearing a
    brightly colored top and shouting as a bulldozer approached her,
    witnesses said. "Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were
    trying to get them to stop," Greg Schnabel, a fellow protester from
    Chicago, told wire services. "She waved for the bulldozer to stop. She
    fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'Stop, stop,' and
    the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and
    then it reversed and ran back over her."

    In an initial statement, the Israeli army laid the blame on Corrie and
    her colleagues. "This is a very regrettable accident," a spokesman
    said. "We're dealing with a group of protesters who are acting
    irresponsibly, putting the Palestinians themselves and our forces in
    danger by intentionally placing themselves in a combat zone."

    But activists say the army is to blame, arguing that it often reacted to
    their presence with extreme aggression. Mr. Delano took part in a
    few ISM "actions" with Corrie in Rafah and says he felt a real sense
    of threat from the army bulldozers.

    "The situation was always fluid and the army doesn't live by regular
    rules," he says of his experiences in Rafah. "The bulldozer [driver's]
    tactic is just to keep coming and hope that people get out of the way.
    One situation I was in was very dangerous - the bulldozer just kept
    coming and it was three or four feet away and there was a wall
    behind us. I was completely shocked that the driver would act the
    way he did. It was insane."

    The actions the army describes as irresponsible - deliberately
    inserting themselves in conflict situations - are a core part of the
    International Solidarity Movement's (ISM) mission.

    Founded in August 2001, the ISM aims to raise awareness of the
    situation in the occupied territories through the media, divestment
    drives, and the use of international volunteers who come for limited
    periods of time. When ISM activists first arrive, they go through an
    orientation, receive nonviolence training, join a group, and get an
    assignment. Volunteers are encouraged to do whatever feels
    comfortable to them. "The training (she received) was adequate for
    the risk," says Mr. Delano.

    The group says it borrows its tactics of nonviolent resistance from
    Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King, among others. Working in
    groups of five to 25, the activists insert themselves in volatile
    situations in order to protect Palestinian civilians and activists with
    their presence. The activists say that if Palestinian activists acted on
    their own, they would face beatings, long-term arrests, injury, and
    even death at the hands of Israeli troops.

    But the assumption that their foreignness will provide ISM activists
    with protection has proved to be sorely mistaken. In the past year,
    foreign ISM activists have been beaten, detained, arrested, deemed
    "security risks" by the army, and deported. Corrie's death marks the
    first activist fatality in 29 months of conflict.
  6. casekonly

    casekonly Veteran Member

    Joined: Aug 6, 2002 Messages: 8,264 Likes Received: 5
    fox is my pick...and that story was on fox news...bliznatch got rimmed by a bulldozer.....dizzamn...nah, double dizzamn
  7. MotherEffer

    MotherEffer Junior Member

    Joined: Feb 21, 2002 Messages: 208 Likes Received: 0
    and all the prostesters in the US bitch about a baton to the knee cap. fuckin sissies.......:rolleyes:
  8. Klypse

    Klypse Elite Member

    Joined: Jul 7, 2001 Messages: 2,533 Likes Received: 0
    i read that thing about the white lady getting ranned the fuck over by the bulldozer. That shit happens to muslims everyday, but it only makes news when some american biznatch takes the fall.... she was fine though