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So I'm watching this about 5 minutes ago and it's the live feed of the

USS Kittyhawk. They're taking calls from people across the country on

a poll of people supporting or opposing the war.... anyway, to the point.

They take this call from Florida, and this kid comes on with a crappy

middle eastern accent and says this, I shit you not, on live CSPAN



"I am from the Middle East and I strongly oppose this war. The reason I

oppose this war is because of the animals. The Americans are coming-

they're coming to the middle east and they are kicking the-" and he

is cut off. The whole time you can hear snickering and laughing in the

background; apparently, this was a group of college kids fuckin with live

TV. I haven't laughed so hard at my TV in a really fucking long time.



So to my question: if you're watching coverage, what do you watch?

C-SPAN and Fox are my picks.

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Guest duh-rye-won


news on TV is like watching a fucking soap opera

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bbc world is alright. a tad bit more worldly than a lot of stuff being shown by the cheerleading media of the U.S.

www.moveon.org i think is good too...there's another i can't think of now but i'll post it later. whichever ones are making an effort to get the truth out there, and you'll know when you come across one.

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for example, this was not all over the news today, becuase it was practically americas fault in the first place giving the israelis weapons, had it been all over the news today, like it shoould have, then there would probably be a thread on it


American killed in Gaza

By Nicole Gaouette | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

JERUSALEM – The death of an American peace protester in the Gaza

Strip Sunday is raising questions about the Israeli army's use of force

and highlighting the risks international activists take to slow the

steady violence that characterizes the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.


Rachel Corrie, a student at Evergreen College in Olympia, Wash.,

died trying to prevent an Israeli army bulldozer from demolishing a

house in Rafah, where Gaza abuts the Egyptian border.


"We were expecting something to

happen, especially down at Rafah," says

Marlous, a Dutch woman who

occasionally participated in protests with

Ms. Corrie. Marlous, who works for a

Palestinian organization in the West

Bank, said protesters had been

increasingly wary of Israeli army tactics.

"This is the first death. It's hard to



James Delano, a documentary filmmaker

from Honolulu who had participated in missions with Corrie, said she

wasn't prone to take unnecessary risks. "I wouldn't describe her as a

zealot," he says. "Rachel was passionate about her work. She was

an intelligent, caring human being. I'm sure she was doing what she

saw as a reasonable action."


Rafah is the scene of frequent unrest. Israelis say weapons are

smuggled across the border from Egypt and that Palestinians use

houses in the area to fire on its troops.


Corrie, who was a member of the Palestinian-backed International

Solidarity Movement, was standing in front of a house wearing a

brightly colored top and shouting as a bulldozer approached her,

witnesses said. "Rachel was alone in front of the house as we were

trying to get them to stop," Greg Schnabel, a fellow protester from

Chicago, told wire services. "She waved for the bulldozer to stop. She

fell down and the bulldozer kept going. We yelled 'Stop, stop,' and

the bulldozer didn't stop at all. It had completely run over her and

then it reversed and ran back over her."


In an initial statement, the Israeli army laid the blame on Corrie and

her colleagues. "This is a very regrettable accident," a spokesman

said. "We're dealing with a group of protesters who are acting

irresponsibly, putting the Palestinians themselves and our forces in

danger by intentionally placing themselves in a combat zone."


But activists say the army is to blame, arguing that it often reacted to

their presence with extreme aggression. Mr. Delano took part in a

few ISM "actions" with Corrie in Rafah and says he felt a real sense

of threat from the army bulldozers.


"The situation was always fluid and the army doesn't live by regular

rules," he says of his experiences in Rafah. "The bulldozer [driver's]

tactic is just to keep coming and hope that people get out of the way.

One situation I was in was very dangerous - the bulldozer just kept

coming and it was three or four feet away and there was a wall

behind us. I was completely shocked that the driver would act the

way he did. It was insane."


The actions the army describes as irresponsible - deliberately

inserting themselves in conflict situations - are a core part of the

International Solidarity Movement's (ISM) mission.


Founded in August 2001, the ISM aims to raise awareness of the

situation in the occupied territories through the media, divestment

drives, and the use of international volunteers who come for limited

periods of time. When ISM activists first arrive, they go through an

orientation, receive nonviolence training, join a group, and get an

assignment. Volunteers are encouraged to do whatever feels

comfortable to them. "The training (she received) was adequate for

the risk," says Mr. Delano.


The group says it borrows its tactics of nonviolent resistance from

Mahatma Gandhi and Martin Luther King, among others. Working in

groups of five to 25, the activists insert themselves in volatile

situations in order to protect Palestinian civilians and activists with

their presence. The activists say that if Palestinian activists acted on

their own, they would face beatings, long-term arrests, injury, and

even death at the hands of Israeli troops.


But the assumption that their foreignness will provide ISM activists

with protection has proved to be sorely mistaken. In the past year,

foreign ISM activists have been beaten, detained, arrested, deemed

"security risks" by the army, and deported. Corrie's death marks the

first activist fatality in 29 months of conflict.

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fox is my pick...and that story was on fox news...bliznatch got rimmed by a bulldozer.....dizzamn...nah, double dizzamn

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i read that thing about the white lady getting ranned the fuck over by the bulldozer. That shit happens to muslims everyday, but it only makes news when some american biznatch takes the fall.... she was fine though

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