lord_casek Posted September 27, 2007 Share Posted September 27, 2007 from gary hart..... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gary-hart/unsolicited-advice-to-the_b_65984.html Presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States, you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana harbor in 1898 and the history of the Gulf of Tonkin in 1964. Having done so, you will surely recognize that Americans are reluctant to go to war unless attacked. Until Pearl Harbor, we were even reluctant to get involved in World War II. For historians of American wars the question is whether we provoke provocations. Given the unilateral U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, you are obviously thinking the rules have changed. Provocation is no longer required to take America to war. But even in this instance, we were led to believe that the mass murderer of American civilians, Osama bin Laden, was lurking, literally or figuratively, in the vicinity of Baghdad. Given all this, you would probably be well advised to keep your forces, including clandestine forces, as far away from the Iraqi border as you can. You might even consider bringing in some neighbors to verify that you are not shipping arms next door. Tone down the rhetoric on Zionism. You've established your credentials with those in your world who thrive on that. If it makes you feel powerful to hurl accusations at the American eagle, have at it. Sticks and stones, etc. But, for the next sixteen months or so, you should not only not take provocative actions, you should not seem to be doing so. For the vast majority of Americans who seek no wider war, in the Middle East or elsewhere, don't tempt fate. Don't give a certain vice president we know the justification he is seeking to attack your country. That is unless you happen to like having bombs fall on your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 27, 2007 Author Share Posted September 27, 2007 and what he mentions: gulf of tonkin (staged) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/press20051201.htm you will have to look up the sinking of the maine on wikipedia. it's going slow for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawood Posted September 28, 2007 Share Posted September 28, 2007 real tough guy, that Gary Hart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted September 28, 2007 Author Share Posted September 28, 2007 he's threatening false flag terrorism to activate a war, right? that's what it seems like he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States, you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the U.S.S. Maine in Havana harbor in 1898. Also, considering the factual... um, 'murkiness' surrounding the causes of the Maine explosion; I would do what you can to avoid any American owned anything having any sort of malfunction even CLOSE to your country... p.s. Bush's strategy for getting out of Iraq... getting into Iran! *bonus: works just as well for getting out of Afghanistan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 thank bob you knew what this letter from mr. hart was about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth bruce Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 from gary hart..... Having done so, you will surely recognize that Americans are reluctant to go to war unless attacked. Until Pearl Harbor, we were even reluctant to get involved in World War II. Given the unilateral U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, you are obviously thinking the rules have changed. Provocation is no longer required to take America to war. But even in this instance, we were led to believe that the mass murderer of American civilians, Osama bin Laden, was lurking, literally or figuratively, in the vicinity of Baghdad. Given all this, you would probably be well advised to keep your forces, including clandestine forces, as far away from the Iraqi border as you can. You might even consider bringing in some neighbors to verify that you are not shipping arms next door. Tone down the rhetoric on Zionism. You've established your credentials with those in your world who thrive on that. If it makes you feel powerful to hurl accusations at the American eagle, have at it. Sticks and stones, etc. But, for the next sixteen months or so, you should not only not take provocative actions, you should not seem to be doing so. For the vast majority of Americans who seek no wider war, in the Middle East or elsewhere, don't tempt fate. Don't give a certain vice president we know the justification he is seeking to attack your country. That is unless you happen to like having bombs fall on your head. Wow... what a fucking cock sucker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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