DPMS556 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 wheres that ED BROWN thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 alone we cant save the world but everyone doing a little,together we can achive something big... lets not lose hope,its now or never. people is waking up and only people will be able to change things,the governments,i dont trust none of them. chavez and iran's prez(hard last name, dont ask bush though) are "against" but u dont hear the guys say words like "rothchild" "bilderberg" nor "central banking"...suspicious. peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 free. . You should probably stop using this word, since you don't seem to know what it means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 i know russ, 'free' means to rob people to pay for your health insurance! ;) to the statists free means the exact opposite of what it really is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 to you free means corporations are free to pollute the air and water, businesses are free to become huge monopolies, but Mexicans aren't free to come to this country. Explain that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRUM Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 HITLER'S BACK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 "to you free means corporations are free to pollute the air and water, businesses are free to become huge monopolies, but Mexicans aren't free to come to this country. Explain that?" no.. in my world, of absolute property rights, pollution would be better handled than today. if a company pollutes the air over my place, the company can be sued. etc. i can get into this if you want, but im sure you'll just dismiss this as arcane. i follow the austrian theory of the business cycle and on monopolies... they dont exist in a free market, only with government intervention. even standard oil, a huge 'monopoly' was charging less than everyone else, whooping the pants off of them, and using waste to make 300 products. doesnt sound 'evil' to me. if i didnt believe in national borders, i'd be an anarchist, which i am not. but if i did say i was an anacho capitalists, there would be no border and everyone would be free to move where ever they wanted. provided, someone would allow you on thier property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underøath.army Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Seems like an okay movie. I will go watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 "to you free means corporations are free to pollute the air and water, businesses are free to become huge monopolies, but Mexicans aren't free to come to this country. Explain that?" no.. in my world, of absolute property rights, pollution would be better handled than today. if a company pollutes the air over my place, the company can be sued. etc. i can get into this if you want, but im sure you'll just dismiss this as arcane. i follow the austrian theory of the business cycle and on monopolies... they dont exist in a free market, only with government intervention. even standard oil, a huge 'monopoly' was charging less than everyone else, whooping the pants off of them, and using waste to make 300 products. doesnt sound 'evil' to me. if i didnt believe in national borders, i'd be an anarchist, which i am not. but if i did say i was an anacho capitalists, there would be no border and everyone would be free to move where ever they wanted. provided, someone would allow you on thier property. Who are you going to sue for global warming? You are assuming pollution is confined to one area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 locals sue each individual company and global warming wouldnt happen (is what he would say) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 sueing its not the solution,the end of these system that causes global warming will do it. attack the roots of the tree if you want to end its life,dont go by the leaves or branches. peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 ^truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted January 31, 2007 Share Posted January 31, 2007 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9131756274600525523&q=aaron+russo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Tax Protester FAQ http://evans-legal.com/dan/tpfaq.html#victories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 if u see what they do with the money u pay youll stop paying it legal or not... peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell jones Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 I didn't say I liked what they do with the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 i asumed u did because u posted that,still,common sense is, the job u do to earn your living shouldnt be taxed by a government to use the money in the least evil activities they possibly do... if for every bomb they droped in iraq was a plate of food,people would be happier and they wouldnt want to kill the first white american they see... peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjimmy Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 one thought i had while watching the movie was the old saying; "be careful what you ask for it, you just might get it." throughout the film people keep saying something to the effect of show me the law that says i have to pay taxes or whatever. what if the government decided it was about time to put something on the books(assuming, as the movie asserts, there is no law), what then? it's not like it would be that hard to sneak a mandatory unapportioned tax clause in the next turd the administration shits out. the whole idea of a government i.d. card has me shook though..i got warrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjimmy Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Its fairly telling of the U.S education system that some of you guys think the U.S is a democracy or was ever setup to be a democracy. =/ its an educational system that teaches kids to believe, not think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 its not education,, its indoctrination. yeah... that point about a law making people pay taxes is sort of a moot point for me. so what if there isnt a law.....sure it shows the corrupt nature of the government and its unjustifiable action, but personally, i would still be just as mad if there was a law saying everyone has to pay income tax. just because a law is passed doesnt make it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyjimmy Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 especially if the law is contradictory to what it says in the Constitution... im just sayin it would be(tragically) funny if those people get what they are asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Fuentes Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 its not education,, its indoctrination. yeah... that point about a law making people pay taxes is sort of a moot point for me. so what if there isnt a law.....sure it shows the corrupt nature of the government and its unjustifiable action, but personally, i would still be just as mad if there was a law saying everyone has to pay income tax. just because a law is passed doesnt make it right. people want to be left alone rather than fight back, as long as they are alive and have some material stuff to keep them busy,humans get used to anything quick,the thing is they dont think for their kids and they dont know they are making a messed up tomorrow for them by not fixing things up when it was time,age does not bring maturity,they think because they know the wise tricks of life on dealing with conversations and businesses they are "responsible" and as long as they have a job and get money they are "supporting" their offspring. the gov is evil but people let the gov exist,change yourself before trying to help the neighbor. peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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