katorock Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 hey i am from chicago but i am currently in the uk when i first heard bout you guy gettin id i was like so... the us has had em forever...its too much money to track you via technology...its just meant to pretty much prove again and name, so no more underage drinkers, or credit card fraud thats it... nuff said that take your picture at the office when you go get your id you show em your birth certif. and maybe a word id number then bam you are done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymski1 Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 not that we've ever had the right to anonimity, not that we've even got a fucking constitution (which is a fucking joke, we're essentially assuming the good nature of our leaders in england not to want a facist regime), but does none of the media hungry whores in government realise that not everyone wants the world to know who they are. its not just those that break the law that want anonimity, its anyone who wants to go out and buy a porno mag. anyone who wants to go abroad for a long weekend without everyone one in the world knowing exactly where they are and who they are. you cant fucking move these days without getting your face caught on umpteen cctv cameras. how long will it be before these cameras can read the info on verybodies cards? call me callous and not moving with the times, but for the insignificant number of terrorist/murders/paedophiles who will be traced with these cards, every other citizen of the country has to forfeit their own identity and privacy. its not fucking worth it. in countries where identity cards have been introduced there has been no evidence to suggests terrorist activity has reduced. and in britain there has still yet to be a single actual conviction using the new anti terror laws which enable random stop and searches. fuck the new id cards fuck anti terror tactics- they dont work fuck blunkett, fucking cunt we need a fucking constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villain Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 The U.S. Military has had chips in our IDs now since 2001. I believe they are traceable by satellite, yet I haven't been scooped up by black helicopters in a trainyard yet. It takes far too many resources to track everyone for every little thing. Supposedly all of my records are on this ID as well. Someday we can use it as a credit card too. It already has a magnetic strip. And a few different barcodes. Yeah but I suppose you could easily fry the chip. Probably could get black market chips eventually. I have my position locator on my cell phone turned off. But I suppose there are still ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_El Mamerro Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by DaDecorators@Dec 1 2004, 06:32 AM listen you mug theres a difference between being a tree hugger and being a molotov chukker, freedom fighter, anti government, revolutionary bomer. when was the last time you cut a high tension double steel fence to paint a train, when was the last time you did insides on the subway? ( Im guessing your a yank) I did yesterday and do you know what I wrote fuk the police and free palestine. Quoted post Holy shit. This motherfucker is fucking HARDCORE TO THE MAX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sneak Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 i dont see our government realistically being able to run a system like this effectivly. i mean fuck, just look at things like the education / transport / welfare systems. if they cant run those, how are they going to be able to track over 60million people?? its more likely that they will become the only id accepted anywhere. much like how its only drivers licenses or passports but back in the day you could always pull of fake ids to get into pubs. the problem with driving licenses is that under - 17s and people who dont drive etc dont have them. thats quite a big proportion of our population. effectivly, it will be the standard id you will have to show for everyday things such as paying bills, opening bank accounts, taking out libary books, getting into your place of work etc. please people, just remember the schemes being run by the Labour govt. how well do you really think it will work?+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katorock Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 yo villian you us military where you stationed at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymski1 Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Originally posted by sneak@Dec 2 2004, 03:08 PM please people, just remember the schemes being run by the Labour govt. how well do you really think it will work?+ Quoted post your point being LABOUR government. a supposedly government of the people. just like when they promised to revamp the official secrets act to allow the public better access to government information. they ended up making it even more difficult to find anything out. did you know thats its actually illegal for a teacher to tell you how long they get for their lunch break??!! anything learnt whilst working for the government is officially a secret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little-G Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 just fry the chip wid a magnet before you go out and then if you get stopped say you though it was funcioning perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallix Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 don't worry its for your safety. protect the homeland. you must be with the terrorists if your worried so much. what do you have to hide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamAlmighty Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 The main reason the government claims they are to be introduced for is to 'combat terrorism'. The only way I can see this helping at all is to help the police identify dead suicide bombers, unless of course they ARE going to be able to track you...but then they'll only be able to prevent attacks by KNOWN terrorists or people with links. Besides that, a breach of human rights perhaps? Having your every move tracked, Decorator is right, very Orwellian. Surely if enough people don't carry them, then they will be forced to abandon them. What really pissed me off though was that each person will have to pay for their own card, £80 i think was the prediction. Except of course au-pairs of high-ranking politician's mistresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamAlmighty Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Originally posted by metallix@Dec 5 2004, 05:33 PM don't worry its for your safety. protect the homeland. you must be with the terrorists if your worried so much. what do you have to hide? Quoted post Are you serious? Do you not see that there is something slighly wrong with having to identify yourself wherever you go? That has to be a breach of basic human rights.... Well fuck it anyway, i'm sure your American anyway, and see ID cards as a step towards 'Democracy'...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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