Movement and Mathmatics

?. Whats your point. I made that comment when some idiots made a quick judgment call to diss the thread instead of voicing there opinion or just leaving it alone. With screen names i am not ignorant enough to think i have been around longer than anyone. But when someone makes a comment like the ones i was commenting about it shows there immaturity and i can almost gurantee they were some newjacks that didnt understand the question. I think the thread has voiced its opinion, and i feel better im not the only one that thought this way. Sorry if made you laugh.

Nah i have nothing against new york, i always respect tradition and still think there alot of New york shit that is dope. Its the mentality of some NY writers that i dont agree with. I agree with Earl on his earlier post though. I think there are alot of assholes also around every graf scene in every city, its something to be an asshole but to actually act upon stupidity i think NY takes the lead on that. Dissing real writers that put in work everywhere, just because. Now thats hating.

For the first part, the stolen part im not sure if it was ever your scene maybe from a hip hop standpoint the whole coming together of rap dance and graf, but from a graf standpoint this is what im talking about. Its a well known fact that graffiti was established at the same point or before by los angeles gangs. This is debateable and im not sure if i would waste my time on that argument. But the fact that the elitist mentality of writers in general whether new york or not, have me thinking about where did this all start and why. In my days bombers chilled with piecers and piecers chilled with bombers everyone that was a real writer was respected period. Cities didnt mean shit. If you repped u repped. I can go on but im headed to dinner. And the 2nd part yes you are and you earned that right.

Its not about beef. Its that it seems like in New york lazy writers only want to get up to diss someone or go over someone from oout of town. Instead of just get up to get up.

Whats not to understand. Im asking the general public, do they think New York City is the biggest hating city in graf. Meaning is New York full of haters that diss everyone's shit wether its good graf or bad. They dont let out of town shit run bombing or productions. New York mentality is hating on anyone not from there. To me im not impressed with New Yorks current stable of writers representing. Piecing there almost non-existent. The bombing will always be on point from new york style and tradition wise. But Why so much hating even from the bombers. Its just a question. This is the only city i have been to that acts like this.

This is a discussion feel free to voice your opinion.

From What i have seen on this Site, it seems that way.

If So what do you think of its overall format?

City, or what side of the brain?

Its funny i was just wondering to myself shouldnt i have a flying car by now. Can someone give me a realistic guess. Im thinking i should order one in 2070. But the end of the world is supposed to 2012? So well see.

I hate when i am awaken by truth's black eyes followed by there blank stare. A moment when the moment collapses like a Star forming a black hole its mass creating immobility and trapped logic. Your mind races with honesty and you feel alive. Wanting every moment to last one minute longer and immortality seems like one painting away...... Has anyone watched the Fountain. I liked the soundtrack also.

Nah my crew is still going strong, i just dropped it.....

:biglaugh: I probably would. But I guess thats why i brought the topic up, it was those crews that i thought were impenetrable that i see doing this. Legendary Crews. I dont want to name names, but ive been disappointed lately.

This is exactly my point. When crews grow they are watered down, and sometimes most take the shortcuts. They take the hot Rookie who is killing shit or has a sick new style, try to get him before someone else does. He's a hot free agent cause he has some time on his hands, he gets courted by some of the heavy hitters in the city, kicks it gets put down then as fast as he came in this game falls off. If he doesnt fall off, he gets a big ego and just as fast as he got down with that crew, travels and then joins a bigger more known crew. and so on and so forth. Im not being totally negative towards crews and recruiting, its just the patterns that i see are knowhere near what i have seen in the past. Not all kids will end up like this either, i have seen succesful recruiting. As an overall though, bigger crews are spreading over states and countries recruiting to make themselves feel dominant, or international or cross country. Whatever rep they want to claim. Shit to me it was kicking at a table sketching and drinking with 5-10 of my closest friends and forming something. Creating and pushing each other towards greatness. Shit has done changed.

Maybe are crews dead was a little vague, maybe i should say are real crews meaning crews with history and tradition still alive. Any young Newjack can start a crew and have no knowledge of its cities history. Alot of this mentality also lies on the heads of the elite writers, who stay involved in there own egos and stand above everyone else. It seems as the gap has widened so broadly than i can ever remember, between the haves and the haves nots. The elite and the complete idiots of graff. To me there are era's of certain crews where they repreesented a true sense of the meaning, now with all the comingling of writers it seems like writers are repping like 3-4 crews depending upon who they paint with. I Repped one crew for 15 years and Now dont rep not one, do to this fallen identity of a family. Maybe its me but if i ever rep another crew it will only be one.

as ideas involve actual thoughts that were provoked before we even understood language. This topic was brought up as question to whether tools such as language hinder the thought process as filtering it. To think about a mispelled word or incomplete sentence is the kind of mental blocking that i am questioning.

I know its tough for some young artists to get a piece of art in a gallery period. But does every show have to involve the same 20 artists we have all seen a million times. Is it worth it to sit around for years till you get a solo exhibit? I would hope galleries would seem to see that individuals can create a larger impact within a space. If i want to see a collection of art i can go to a musuem.

Re: STRAIGHTLETTERS! Yeah i was thinking the same thing when i looked over this thread. Maybe someone should make a blockletter thread.

Yeah i think it is a hard topic to go into detail about, i was just wondering if it was only me thinking this.

You can also walk down to the beach there are huge walls on the water....... Ask the Girls at the Montana store to give you the map with all the legal spots.

It’s pretty funny that kids on here would hate so quickly on a genuine topic. First of all I have been writing probably longer that most of you. I can almost guarantee it. But you never know who is who with screen names. That was your mistake when responding to think I am some toy that just bought a game and learned Graff. Maybe you don’t see the question as valid which is cool; it might be a bit over your head. a 3 word question might be too much for fake ass new jacks that thinking painting for 10 years or in most your cases the last 5 years as being an og. Make a knowledgeable response next time, instead of just being ignorant.

i also spelled mathmatics wrong as the world would be bland with correct gramar

It seems as if there are not too many Solid old school Crews anymore. A lot of crews in today’s Graf game, instead of like the old days when schooling kids and bringing them up was the building blocks. There taking the fast food way and just recruiting and courting them for a summer making them down and using new writers to progress there intentions. As writers get older new talent is always a must if your intentions are bigger than your 3 best friends killing a city and being content. Is this the progression and the direction of graffiti? Are we leaving loyalty and family for opportunity. Sometimes 3-6 man crews can kill shit and stay true. But with commercialization, all these artist collectives of 50 plus artists, and taking top artist to just be down seem in my opinion watering down the meaning of crew. Name your favorite active crews and crews you think are representing but just not representing. And lets see some pictures of the Real and the Fakes.

Determined results followed by slow moving lag in a revolution. Why is the implementation of thought so slow to actually become?