smooth bruce

Please do not address me with sentiments of live and let live if you have obviously no understanding of history, current world events and the relationship between religious moderatism and fanatacism. There is nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all unjustifable, unreasonable, scientifically unprovable faiths whos very foundations clash with each other and all lead to a violent dead end. We are in the year 2006 the time for religious respect has well passed and it is not taboo to question beleif systems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVQoxrrMftA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB2vmj8eyMk

Yes I can. It is blindingly obvious to anyone with half a fucking brain that was raised outside of a religious society and has only even briefly studied biblical history and sciences.

If you beleive human writtings to be the litteral word of a supreme being then yes you are ignorant but also a fucking lunatic.

Oh no not the fictional character from a fictional story!! :rolleyes:

People who follow organized religion shouldn't even be aloud to use the word ignorant.

The problem lies in the fact that billions of people are raised with these stories to be undeniable truth when from a biblical historian and scientist point of view they are completely unprovable. Most people will never be able to break away and look at the bigger picture be it from the rules of the religion itself (eg: christianity) or they are simply to afraid to. People raised within these cultures and taught these stories as undeniable truths need them. They could not live a life without this 'god' being exactly how he is in this book and in their mind. They could not bare the thought of there truely being nothing once you die or that man isnt shaped in the image of god and we are his special little creation on this one planet he looks down on.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth And I am not saying that it isnt ok to beleive in god I am saying that if you beleive allegorical literature the basis of all organized religions to be the LITERAL WORD OF GOD passed down to man via god himself or through angels and visions to chosen prophets then you are a fucking pre historic idiot. It is as simple as that. These are fictional stories written by HUMAN BEINGS. The possibilities for a god existing or not are endless. There are scientists who beleive that god could have created evolution or the big bang. When you take into account other science discoverys in the last 100 years it becomes easy to realize that the human race isnt special. There are BILLIONS of planets in our galaxy and most likely billions of galaxies through out the entire universe. Maybe there is a god in charge of it all maybe it is a series of random events. One thing is for certain. The fictional writtings of humans on the planet earth 2000 - 2500 years ago do not hold any answers to the reality of a god or gods existance.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth Its called reality, science, common sense and not thinking like a pre historic fucking idiot. There are already millions of us.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth Yes do not think. Consult the centuries old allegorical litterature moderated from god to man by a magic angel.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth There is resounding evidence that proves through moses "god" had a personnal little war with an egyptian pharaoh? well actually there is not.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth Hey was Moses that guy involved in the exodus? You know the exodus that never happend

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Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth Or you could read it as first century and before allegorical literature which it is and realize it is completely fictional.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth Guys I am going to start basing my entire life on a mixture of the novel 'moby dick' and the 1980s movie 'krull' starring at the time a still relatively unknown Liam Neeson. I hope that my fictional beleif system does not conflict with yours and that we can all live in fictional harmony together.

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Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth I was talking in terms of all religion but if the quran has any miracles (magic) or it makes mention of a god/supreme being, that puts it right along side other religions and into the category of fiction.

Re: the nature of the creator of the heavens and earth I think the most interesting point is that alot of you beleive these fictional stories.