oldnangry Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Russolo Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 honesty is what sets this work apart from a good majority of new work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Frehley Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 not for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 this shit is tuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 this thread is a right click save smorgasbord. this is from 64. prehistoric scratchitti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 "theirs are just little tags on little white pieces of paper. mine are 8 feet tall riding in brooklyn, manhattan and the bronx - and its beautiful!" Ramo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ace Frehley Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 That book looks great. just ordered it. herers a page out of "GRAFFITI. 2000 years of wall writing" by Robert Reisner. 1971 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desism_ktc Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I remember seeing those XXX as XXX tags growing up back in the day... Cold Gin time again for the Kiss Army Cay 161... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 awesome thread stoled from lostshot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milford Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I respect the old school and know my history.....but 98% of this stuff is wack. I'm sorry. I don't buy into the whole "old school graffiti is the best"....that' s like saying that televisions in the 1950's are better than than the flat screen hd's we have now. when something is started ...it just gets better over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I respect the old school and know my history.....but 98% of this stuff is wack. I'm sorry. I don't buy into the whole "old school graffiti is the best"....that' s like saying that televisions in the 1950's are better than than the flat screen hd's we have now. when something is started ...it just gets better over time. this shit is wack? you can burn this? i dont think so buddy and what about that crime in the city joint I just posted....wack?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desism_ktc Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Personally I don't think you can truly compare the different time frames realistically. As much as the new stuff is good, sharp and maybe more in depth, the tools of the trade have given a lot of people a head start so to speak. Take todays kings and take away the special paint, caps and I'll go as far as even saying the internet and see if thier stuff could match up to the old school.. -Stocks vs super skinny caps -12-16 colors vs hundreds to choose from -trading flicks by meeting a writer and exchanging styles etc. vs logging in a website like this to see work from people that most will never get to meet or even make an effort to understand etc.. just my two cents.. as I say it always..you don't have to like the old school, but you have to respect it and what it has done for todays writers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRISPY KREME 127 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I respect the old school and know my history.....but 98% of this stuff is wack. I'm sorry. I don't buy into the whole "old school graffiti is the best"....that' s like saying that televisions in the 1950's are better than than the flat screen hd's we have now. when something is started ...it just gets better over time. If you respected it, why would you say 98% of it is wack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Frehley Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I remember seeing those XXX as XXX tags growing up back in the day... Cold Gin time again for the Kiss Army Cay 161... is there any truth to ace frehley writing in the early 70's w/ comets brother? i saw something about it on 12 oz some time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleptembers Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I respect the old school and know my history.....but 98% of this stuff is wack. I'm sorry. I don't buy into the whole "old school graffiti is the best"....that' s like saying that televisions in the 1950's are better than than the flat screen hd's we have now. when something is started ...it just gets better over time. you know they also used to have kegs at 3rd base.. but baseball today is so much cooler!! what a tool..:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pharaoh145th Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 That book looks great. just ordered it. herers a page out of "GRAFFITI. 2000 years of wall writing" by Robert Reisner. 1971 I pre-ordered Birth of Graffiti, and it got here today. Alot of fresh, never before seen flics. I got Faith of Graffiti when I was 13 it made me appreciate the art of writing so much more, and rethink my whole approach to graff. I hope this book does the same for today's toys, like the imbecil who just posted the ridiculous comment about the old school being wack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Clothesoff Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 If you respected it, why would you say 98% of it is wack? i respect my grandfather, but the way he dresses is wak:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 but isn't calling something wack disrespect? if thats not disrespect then what is? this is a long and kind of pointless argument but whatever... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Russolo Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Birth of Graffiti and GRAFFITI. 2000 years of wall writing are completely amazing if you are seriously interested in what you are a part of when you chose to make marks on things that belong to other people. It's relatively simple, if you just open your brain a bit, to realize the reason why the old school stuff is good, trust me it's mainly honesty. these guys and sometimes gals, just went out and did their thing on those trains, no bullshit. i think these should be seen: all very obviously stolen from subway outlaws which all of you guys should check out if you haven't already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lardy timmy Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Quick question...There was a guy in the late 80's that wrote Presweet in Milwaukee, I think he might've come from NY. Can anybody tell me if it's the same guy? Sick thread by the way... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desism_ktc Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Quick question...There was a guy in the late 80's that wrote Presweet in Milwaukee, I think he might've come from NY. Can anybody tell me if it's the same guy? Sick thread by the way... could be..what crew did he push? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I respect the old school and know my history.....but 98% of this stuff is wack. I'm sorry. I don't buy into the whole "old school graffiti is the best"....that' s like saying that televisions in the 1950's are better than than the flat screen hd's we have now. when something is started ...it just gets better over time. typical - but not unexpected from a new writer. what fail to realize is this shit is wack to you by todays standards, but todays standards were formulated from these standards. this graffiti is true and pure. there is no point of reference for this shit - and so when this is considered the "best" it is the best because it was created from nothing. the best writers today have a point of reference - these is a sphere of influence. so in a word, these niggas was gods because they created - whereas today we are pretty much just recycling variations of styles created by these dudes. its why guys like scratch perry are better than bob marley. and why the first wu tang album is better than the latest wu shit (even though the latest shit is more refined) - or why the first star wars series was fresher, although it was cheesy as hell in comparison to the latest series. but there was nothing like it that predates it. it was grounbreaking. the same way FTD56, LSD 3, Hondo and the like were groundbreaking when they did their wack filled in stick letters with an arrow coming off the side......know whut um sprayin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 well said zed resurrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 . BROOKLYN STAND UP! SPIN1 FIRST GENERATION platform fame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniprovolone Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Stay High 149! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Frehley Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I pre-ordered Birth of Graffiti, and it got here today. Alot of fresh, never before seen flics. I got Faith of Graffiti when I was 13 it made me appreciate the art of writing so much more, and rethink my whole approach to graff. I hope this book does the same for today's toys, like the imbecil who just posted the ridiculous comment about the old school being wack. I have another page out of that book you'll want to see. I will scan and post sometime later today. Always good to read what you type. A student and writer in Boston,ma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lardy timmy Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 could be..what crew did he push? I don't remember, the tag looks really similar though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~>MooseKnuckle<~ Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 well said zed resurrected thanks. knowledge+wisdom=understanding.... knowledge is simply not enough. without understanding, knowledge is just words uttered by the phony smart! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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