my bad... .. but yah simpler is better if you aint got a handle on that wilder shit is gonna be pointless to try... got to have the structure down... shit maybe ,, Gine,,, might work
.... also you might want to check some Raels, Pestoe, karma, resto, lyes... those are sum good ones and just look at as much shit as possible... freightsrus.com and lay-lo.com and 12oz's metal head always have good flicks... but id say go more simpler with more evenness through it... on that newer one thats nopt to bad good at keepin shit clean...ok letters ..that second one is bleh... but liek i said definatley looks at some RAELS shit and you see what i mean by evenness