Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 The Progression of Styles for the Purpose of Teaching http://www.dfected.net/zesto/SS.jpg'> Well it's Summer time, and that means summer school! Tesseract and I have been talking about creating a 'visual training bible' Why? Well because it's about damn time! So please contribute! More than just comments... this thread needs step-by-steps, unfinished pieces, half drawn outlines, constructing colour schemes and more! I know people will try to pull cards on this with comments like... "Let the toys learn the hard way" and "It's only going to encourage biters" Yeah... or maybe this thread will help a bunch of people get better, and then raise the quality of the fourm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 and let me get it started..... Leson #1 http://www.dfected.net/zesto/R_prog.jpg'> --- 1. Find the basic shape of your letter. This is the groundwork that all letters come from. It's important to know how your hand relates to your full letters. Here I've picked a very simple, classis R to work with. 2. Work out the size and proportions. I used a classic calligraphy trick here. A pencil and a pen are used together at the same time. This is a great way to perfect the stress and [/i]slant of the letters. (look it up!) This letter needs to be enlarged, as it's way to bunched up for my taste. 3. Corrected size and Shape. I know that this is nothing more than a handstyle R, but we are starting at the begining. I'm leaving the 'guide lines' on to show that the line logic is correct. And for the record... I dont actually make letters like this. Once you understand the principals, you can freestyle all your curves and shapes. You just know where the lines should be. 4. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stooopid) So the letter is there and a basic straight 3D is on. I know it's boring.. but there's enough people who post that haven't yet mastered the most basic of letters. 5. Style So this is the part that seperates the men from the boys. Once again.. I've left the extra lines in there to show the previous steps. This is where realy style some into play. Serifs, ghosts lines and under/overlaps are used to add a little flair. And I added a 3D to clean up the overall shape. My letter's actually looking really messed up with those extra lines, but I think the point is clear... A good letter can work on all levels, from handstyle to wildstyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SayOne Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 ooops wrong thread .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack Morris Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 ^^^^ whats that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 i was thinkin the same thing thats no progression sayone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 oh by the way... i lke your thread idea zack.....and your "r" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 ^ you must mean zesto... but thanks anyways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 oops... sorry zesto...i meant good point zack...bad ass thread idea zesto;) ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGREAL Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 this thread gave me a great idea!!! thanks zesto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bubble cloud Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 using a tag as a guide for movement is a good way to map out a piece if your doing any style.but only as a line of movement.not a literal outline.its the way the art evolved.but i think your demonstration doesnt account for the thins and thickness in a piece . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE_rase_war Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 i always find that when one would do a style, sketch all your lines somewhat heavily....make all your lines visible, nomatter how overlapping they might be.... it helps me, plus you can figure out your structure better if your just starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 ^ both very valid points! Now draw some examples! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest meone Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 ROCK!!! thanx zesto this thrread helps already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~DeNtOnE~ Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 well well well! cant teach an old dog new tricks eh.. i have been in the game for 2 1/2 years and i never thought about using hand style letters to make a peice letter thanks zesto now i feel bad for all the paper i wasted over ther years sigh~ oh ya i think some one should post the 4 or 5 pages that they got the a-z ones as a starting point .. do yall no what im talking bout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EwokEoNe Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 tight thread zesto!!! this can help me out a lot. i've been tryin to get into piecin but when i get the pencil in my hand i just dont know where to begin. if some one can tell me where to that a-z thing that dent-one was talking bout it would help me out a lot. then i try out the thing zesto did with the and maybe i can actually get somewhere.........................thanks a lot!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fr8burner Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 http://www.boomspeed.com/hypercube/transformers.jpg'> This is 4 years old and i know the letters are weak as fuck...point is it helped me a lot when i started seeing many letters in a letter. Hope you'll get over the weakness and get the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricitySucks Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 hey!! teach me how to do an E !!!:) teach me how to do a K too!! :) hey!!!:) can you do my tagging name if 3-d taggin for me!!? :) thanks!!:) you guys rock!!!:) thanks zesto!!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~\ Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 nice.. but you put alot of work coloring the 3d in .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
•nakone• Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 i like the progression Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-town_bomber Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 i dont really think graffiti should be taught personally. they need to learn from experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 ^ I think you need both! If people could all reach a certain artistic level without any help, then we 'd all be out of a job. (so to speak) And also.. the more people who paint without skill, the more the general public acquaits us with gangs and vandals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE_rase_war Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 after teaching myself, over years, and then teaching people and watching them come up, I find that it is great on both hands..if you lack the pacients and stability, then sure find a teacher...but whatever..i am happy... and zesto, I would post hella sketches and examples...but I do not have a penny to my name, i am sitting at work, and scannerless.... but in due time I wil have stuff posted. I caught an elk yesterday..very refreshing toodles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 someone tell me if this works.... fotango is really screwy so hopefully this works so i can post my sketches on 12oz sumwhere.http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00220390f00000001.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 I love you man !!! that's EXACTLY what I'm looking for! more more more !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 now how about someone breaking down the colour layers? (hey WST guys... I'm looking for you!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 4, 2002 Share Posted July 4, 2002 you talkin to me zesto??? if so i take it that my pic is working....right? and if you ARE talkin to me then...teehee...im blushing *cough* anyway....yea. i just did that yesterday when i saw your post....but it took me till today to figure out how to work the damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DorkstaR Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 oh yea.... i meant to post this one with the other one to show more detail...i forgot. http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00220390f00000002.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest --zeSto-- Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 to add to Tesseract's point... Some letter shapes are universal. here's the nastiest thing I've ever posted... but it's an example of how the same shape can exist in different places. It's was an M scanned and fked with in photoshop for rotation, size etc. http://www.dfected.net/zesto/semewz.jpg'> yeah... let the progession session lesson umm.... continue. damn. (hey Dorkstar.. could you delete the image tags that didn't work. After tesseract and before electr..? thanks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest -sudz- Posted July 5, 2002 Share Posted July 5, 2002 SOOMER SCHOOL! http://www.dfected.net/zesto/SS.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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