Guest imported_Tesseract Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Tesseract Roe...correct, But then again almost all wars have a religious base... Im going out of topic a bit, but there is a thought worthy sharing. Some people believe that the horrible decay situation that exists now in former USSR is the result of the ending of communism as a political idea and as a religion. As we all know communism does not go hand in hand with religion, And thats one of the reasons why most communist leaders are worshipped as gods, even art from those periods/countries has a religious iconography when it comes to leaders. I dont believe in god. But those non personated old religions have something good, they cannot be shut down, I'm writing these very raw and undeveloped, but its an interesting point of view. HAHAHA, here ya go, 'next' yeah i know what you mean...The only 'now' in my life is the search of hot girls that last couple of weeks. Gotta get my shit together though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 well, it is notable to point out that, even after the horrible persecution at the hands of the communists in the purge eras, Eastern Orthodoxy has always maintained a strong foothold in Russia. Even when religion and religious gathering was stricltly forbidden, the EO's still had it going on... seems like most of their temples went undefiled too (but I may be way off on this), still, opiate of the masses or not, it's hard to convince humans that there isn't some 'higher power' out there meteing out judgement or at least some form of predestinantion... as to the iconography, I have collected Iconographs from around the world for years now and that 'school' always sets me off. I like all the 'Che's and 'Lenin's, the 'Castro's... I also like some of the new stuff from Sadaam but sadly it isn't very inspired, just an old rehashing of symbols... seems like Idi Amin had some dope murals... I kinda dig the corruption of the religious cult to the personality cult thing... not like Manson, more like Frank Sinatra, but basically the same sort of idol worship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Tesseract Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Even when religion and religious gathering was stricltly forbidden, the EO's still had it going on... Yeah, thats valid. As far as 'painting' goes MAO, hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted December 13, 2001 Share Posted December 13, 2001 Originally posted by Tesseract As far as 'painting' goes MAO, hands down doubtless, I would ask how I could forget but... I think it's about time to go to work :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Mask Posted December 18, 2001 Share Posted December 18, 2001 not to get back on topic or anything, but here's an email from fair's mailing list I got a week ago (I need to check my regular email more often!) that sheds some intresting new light on things: FAIR-L Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting Media analysis, critiques and news reports MEDIA ADVISORY: NEW YORK TIMES SHOULD TELL FULL STORY IN TERROR BLAST Hamas Leader Was in Palestinian Prison Until Freed by Israeli Attack December 6, 2001 Three separate terrorist attacks in Israel claimed at least 25 lives this past weekend, and subsequent Israeli army attacks on Palestinian areas have killed at least five people. The Palestinian group Hamas claimed responsibility for the suicide bombings, which it said were in retaliation for the November 23 assassination of the group's senior West Bank leader, Mahmoud Abu Hanoud. Echoing the response of the Bush administration, the U.S. news media have largely blamed the attacks on Palestinian Authority leader Yasir Arafat, despite the fact that Hamas is an unaffiliated rival of the PA. "Arafat didn't send the suicide bombers, but he didn't stop them either," reported CBS Evening News correspondent David Hawkins (12/3/01). Although no one has charged that the Palestinian Authority carried out or authorized the suicide attacks, Israeli airstrikes against Palestinian Authority headquarters and police facilities were presented in some outlets as a direct response to the suicide bombings, as with the December 4 New York Daily News front-page headline: "PAYBACK." The New York Times made the Palestinian Authority's failure to arrest more Hamas militants a major theme in its December 3 reporting and commentary. According to a news analysis piece, "Mr. Arafat's lieutenants said they would crack down on two powerful extremist groups, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and began making arrests. Mr. Arafat had said before that he would take this step, without doing so." The Times added that Arafat's Fatah organization "has maintained uneasy relations with Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Palestinian analysts and officials say-- relations that are likely to end if he puts their leaders in prison and keeps them there." The paper quoted Secretary of State Colin Powell as telling Arafat, "You've got to go after the organizations who are conducting these kinds of acts of terror... putting them in real jails where they are not walking free several days later." The Times' editorial followed the same line, warning that "a decisive moment is now at hand in which Mr. Arafat has to assert his authority with actions, not merely words. He must, as Washington demands, break up the terrorist organizations led by Hamas and Islamic Jihad by arresting leaders involved in planning violence and by seizing illegally held arms." While it is certainly valid to investigate whether either the PA or Israel have done enough to pursue suspected terrorists or to stop violence under their control, the New York Times has omitted crucial facts about this latest cycle of violence, even though the paper has reported these facts in the past. On August 26 of last year, Hamas' Hanoud was wounded by Israeli forces in a shootout near the West Bank town of Nablus. Hanoud then surrendered to the Palestinian Authority, and four days later he was sentenced to 12 years in prison by a Palestinian military tribunal for training and arming military groups (Associated Press, 9/2/00). On May 18, Israel launched an F-16 attack on the Nablus jail where Hanoud was being held, in an attempt to kill him. The action proved disastrous: Eleven Palestinian police officers are believed to have died, and Hanoud escaped (New York Times, 5/20/01). Castro Salameh, the Palestinian commander of the Nablus post, told the Times, "Abu Hanoud has been my charge for nine months, and I have kept him under lock and key... But now Israel has liberated him. I have absolutely no idea where he has gone to." These facts have been reported in the New York Times, most recently in a November 25 story about Hanoud's assassination. But the stories written after the latest round of violence have omitted these facts. Targeting civilians is never acceptable, but context is critical as people seek a way out of the cycle of Mideast violence: If the Times reminded readers that the Hamas leader whose killing sparked the recent round of violence was in a Palestinian jail until the Israeli military tried to assassinate him, it would put the contention that the Palestinian Authority bears most of the responsibility for the current strife in a different light. On December 5 the Times did report that Arafat and others believe that Israeli attacks on Palestinian police facilities are in fact encumbering their ability to arrest militants. But the troubling connection between Israel's attempt to kill a prisoner in Palestinian custody and the recent rash of bombings is still not being pointed out by the paper. ---------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ski Mask Posted December 18, 2001 Share Posted December 18, 2001 *bump* cause I still cant believe this, and it proves my earlier point. The hamas leader would be locked up tight in prison if israel hadn't tried to assasinate him....now hes free to plan more suicide bombings...yay! way to go israel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smart Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 nowadays niggaz is just shootin' up the house party... that shit is SO "LA '84" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted January 19, 2002 Share Posted January 19, 2002 Let's get our country liberated from these occupying infidels...let's shoot up a wedding of innocent civilians. back from the dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickjilbert Posted January 19, 2002 Author Share Posted January 19, 2002 those palestinitnas are some bad motha - shut yo mouth israel = pussies that get aid form the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Let's get our country liberated from these occupying infidels...let's shoot up a wedding of innocent civilians. back from the dead True that. And while were at it, why dont we bomb and bulldoze the native inhabitants and claim their land as ours. And then expect no retribution. And then play the victim role when retribution comes. And pander to bigger stronger countries like the US and the rest of the world using that victim card to get them to help us whipe out the entire Palistinian problem. We'll call it the "final salution to the Palistinian problem." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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