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    华国锋的中国旅行商量 － Hua Guofang's China Travel Thread Extravaganzoid

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    looking at those street vendor food pics kept reminding me of this....

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ed_1382996617

    recycled sewer cooking oil....

     

    Man, I walked past a gutter oil shop every day for 10 days in this little town, it fucking stunk. It was the grimiest of the grime and I so wanted to take a pic but the issue of gutter oil is relatively serious in China (as in it has federal attention) and I didn't want to upset folk by documenting their activities.

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    @ DAO - tell your lad not to confuse laziness, low education and corruption for discretion and judgement. Secondly, they also ignore big things as well. If a businessman, foreign or local is taken by force to a hotel and refused his/her freedom because the other party is demanding a payment (usually over a contractual dispute) the cops literally shrug their shoulders and say that it's a civil dispute and doesn't concern them. I have seen this with my own eyes and there are multitudes of news articles that discuss this situation (and how the consulates of the foreign businessmen also agree that it's a business dispute because one dude is not worth damaging diplomatic relations over. I shit you not, it's all public record which you can google).

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    Also, don't be so convinced that capitalism is the problem. Corruption was just as rife in China under communism as it is now under "socialism with Chinese characteristics". China is only somewhat capitalist in that you can own your own business and personal property. But there is still very strong govt intervention in to the markets (they determine energy prices, some food prices, etc.) and there is still a maaaaaaasive state owned enterprise/industrial sector that is propped up by the state whilst running big losses. There is also no rule of law there (the Party is above the law, basically) and that means contractual disputes are usually decided in terms of who is the most powerful/connected, not who is in breach of contract. Given these circumstances it is difficult to say that China is anywhere near unbridled capitalism. The market does not rule, contracts mean dick all and the state has ultimate power, as opposed to the constitution/judiciary.

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    That means China is essentially a "jungle", rule is by power, nothing else. And whilst that may also be similar to all national realities (capitalist, communist, fascist, monarchist, etc.) the economic and market conditions in China does not allow the country to be called capitalist. Some call it "red capitalism" instead or neo-leninist if you want to be a wanky academic.

    krokodil has hit the states

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    To be fair, all languages have some pretty retarded quirks that you never really notice from the inside. all languages are fucked up to outsiders, some a lot more so than others.

     

    english is no exception, we're just native speakers though so we have a terrible perspective on how difficult english is to an outsider.

     

    american english is a fucking joke though, they purposely delineated from british english out of some strange notion of independence, as though switching 's's to 'z's was sticking it to the empire.

     

    I love how Americans pervert the language.

     

    Take 'clique' for instance. It's French word pronounced 'kleek' but somehow in the US it has become 'click' and I bet most who use it have no idea of it's actual meaning.

     

    This happens a lot in Western countries, another example is the word 'concerted'. IT derives from the word 'concert', which loosely means a collected effort. I carried out my task in concert with my colleagues. A concerted effort means an effort in combination with other parties. Yet for some reason people mistake 'a concerted effort' to mean 'a determined effort' and now you have some of the lesser dictionaries even defining it that way. It's so fucking dumb and the use of words without understanding the meaning shits me to tears. It's not to say I don't, as a matter of fact I used the word concerted to mean determined one day and realised I didn't know the meaning and it wasn't immediately obvious what it actually was, that's why I looked it up. I hate sounding dumb, or even worse, being dumb by using words I don't understand.

     

    Same with 'alright', there's no actual word, it should be 'all right'. However the meaning has been perverted to become 'ok' or 'mediocre' rather than 'all correct'.

     

     

     

    And yes, other languages are also retarded, none more so than Chinese. Such a limited number of phonemes and a huge number of meanings for the one word. About as irrational as it gets, much of the time they have to explain to each other WTF they are trying to say because the language is so similar to itself and contextually dependent.

    华国锋的中国旅行商量 － Hua Guofang's China Travel Thread Extravaganzoid

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    >>华国锋的中国旅行商量<< － Hua Guofang's China Travel Thread Extravaganzoid!!!

     

    I had to go back to China for a wedding just recently and as I was there I realised that I'd never really posted any pics from when I used to live there. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Knowing how much you cats lurve yo travel threads I figured I'd do my bit in trying to revive 12OZ with a China Travel Thread. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . The first lot of pics are from a 'small town' in central China where the wedding was. The second lot are from Beijing with a few mixed in from a few years back. Then there is Shanghai and lastly a bunch from Hong Kong. Will take a couple of days to go through them all because there are close to 500...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Get yo grime on!! IMG_1426_zps23e297bf.jpg IMG_1428_zpsaf454a54.jpg IMG_1429_zpsdc624f64.jpg IMG_1431_zps28fc575d.jpg Formatting is fucking up for some reason so I'm posting this first one in the hope that it rights itself in the second post.

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