I would say it depends on the surface with that D.E.D. I thought the red insider i got off him wasn't gonna be to hot when it gets buffed but this one ceiling hit someone did on plastic, shit got buffed and looked pretty much the same. I think I posted it in here somewhere. He should throw that on the site, ill after the buff results. Oh, btw it was in one of those OTR/zig markers.
P.S. Pen ink is sick, i usually made marker full at a time so it wasn't so much of a time waster an shit but it is only really sick for inside shit unless you use some kind of shit to make it weather proof.
P.P.S. New Vaudeville color is out, shit looks like lime green tic tacs, super limited supply (not even 20oz's worth right now, but will mix for heads if they needs it, also flicks later on).
EDITzilla: Oh yeah, as far as pilot ink goes, black is the shit, everything else sucks/fades. Anyone every mix the red and blue to make violet pilot? Its pretty dope but I never used it straight.