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you have to get fitted and the pair is ordered from japan where it's custom made to fit. you get a call about 2 weeks later and they're kept in a store room until you show up. (they have to be prepaid)

actually, here you go: R by 45rpm NEW YORK 169 MERCER St.,NEW YORK 10012 Tel : 917-237-0045?

THANKS FOR INFO...IM HOPING TO MAKE IT BACK TO THE BIG NYC SOON SO ILL GO CHECK IT ALL OUT. Quoted post [/b] cool. the shop is in soho a door or two down from marc jacobs. i forget the street, but it's about a block or so from the prince st stop on the N & R. here's their website: http://www.45rpm.jp/index.jsp

I believe the $1800 pair have an 8 year organic indigo wash and 18kt custom hardware.

btw, if you make it to 45rpm, check out the charcoal wash denim. a beautiful alternative to indigo.

45rpm, comme de garcons, and many more... Quoted post CAN U GET 45 RPM'S IN THE UK THEN??? Quoted post [/b] no idea, but they happen to have a shop in soho, nyc in case you have a friend in ny that can help you out. just so you know... 45rpm is particularly expensive. they start at about $400 and most hover in the $800 range. you can also get custom hardware and special long term washes, but that will drive the price up into the $1000 - $1800 range. not for the faint of heart, or shallow pockets.

45rpm, comme de garcons, and many more...

i've already turned down an offer for $400. i'd rather save them to trade for something i want then to try and make cash off them.

i have a pair of those orange supreme's deadstock in the box (10.5). i wear a 12 and they were out so i bought the next largest size hoping to eventually trade someone.

my boy got a pair of these and they're top notch. nice style and great quality. really nice switch from sneakers... available here... http://www.dp-mhi.com here's another spot with good sneaker alternatives and a place to get visivim which are impossible anywhere else. http://www.rivingtonclub.com/

thanks for the kind words and participation. hit me up before you get to ny and maybe we can meet up, talk shop, and dig for denim.

hey ringring, good to see you here. i thoroughly enjoyed reading up on the knowledge you've been dropping on superfuture. welcome aboard.

just got some vintage selvege indigo's from comme de garcons. not as nice as 45rpm, but better than most other japanese selvege i've seen around.

Often times, brands license their name to licensees or distributors in foreign territories instead of shipping product. This is because there's usually a big different in style/taste from one place to another, and the assumption is they could more successfully predict and fulfill product in their own areas. Usually the main brand needs to approve the designs, but often times everyone is on such a tight deadline or disorganized that it never happens. Either way, this is why you see different cars, electronics, and clothing that differ from one country to another.

outlet stores are referred to in the industry as strike out. this means anything they carry couldn't be sold by retailers, even after several rounds of sales (the discounts given at department store sales are generally absorbed by the brand) and after every regular retailer was given several chances to order the stuff at deep discounts. further, outlet stores are becoming increasingly dominated by margin builders that are predestined for strike out. these garments are generally designs and styles from older seasons or designs that didn't make the cut from a recent season, re-manufcatured using cheaper materials. for example in the case of denim, it'll usually be a much lighter grade of fabric, and often a much cheaper standard as well. further, often times they'll cut corners on trims, washes and finishing. Most consumers aren't sophisticated enough, experienced enough, or interested enough to realize these differences. Generally, they simply see stuff being sold in department stores for far more, and thus feel like it's a bargain when they see a garment by the same brand, for a bit less at an outlet store, never really catching onto the fact that it's a bait and switch type scenario. I'm sure most of you have that feeling in your gut while at an outlet that something isn't quite right about the clothes there. Irregular items are a very small part of what they stock at outlets since most of this isn't even released from the vendor manufacturing the stuff for the brand. Other strike out retailers include Marshall's TJ Maxx, Burlington Coat Factory, and many others. Your best bet is shopping at sales from regular retailers, but fact is you usually get what you pay for.

For under $150 I'd probably go for a pair of Paper Denim & Cloth, Levi's Vintage, or Diesel depending on the cut and wash you like. Personally I'm not a fan of Seven jeans for guys, but that's just me. L-R-G isn't even in the same category as what we've been discussing. They might have cool shirts and hoodies, but their denim is some cheap crap straight out of China.

kind of... it describes an old technique for making the denim fabric. back when it was done on shuttle looms, they could only make it so wide. as a result you could actually see the ends of the fabric and how they were finished off. most jeans try and immitate the look by weaving or stitching the end, but selvedge looks different. It's not so much this reason that the fabric is appealing, but rather the distinct twist that selvedge has when constructed into a pant, and more importantly, the unique character the fabric has from being made by such a crude technique. all the imperfections in the denim makes each one a little different, and because it's a relatively slow manufacturing process, you can usually count on the jeans only being made in relatively small batches.

Just below houston on mercer. a door or two up from marc jacobs.

you see the alife x levi's 501's? Not bad, but not sure they were worth and extra $120 just for the extra alife woven label.

This is kinda hard since most these brands are small and exclusive, thus avoiding a heavy presence, especially online. Regardless, you can check out the 45rpm website here... http://www.45rpm.jp/denim/index.jsp

Obviously Levi's is a classic you can't knock, but if you see the way a pair of Japanese selvedge that have been hand died using natural indigo pigment wear over time, it's hard not to fall in love with them. Granted Levi's get a personality of their own after rocking them for a few years, naturally died selvedge have personality right from the start (without all the need for the artificially created whisking and treatments). Anyhow, to each their own I guess...

I live close to the store and know a few people, so I've never had to go the mark up route on the Supreme gear. As far as I'm concerned if there's anything worth dropping loot on, its denim. Shit lasts years if you take good care of it. And good denim actually gets better with age. I usually get 2 - 3 pairs a year, maybe more if I get a good deal. If you happen to be in or around NYC, go check out the 45rpm store in Soho. Their denim is a work of art.

no, Supreme t-shirts are $24 when you get them at the store. I was referring to Rpgan and PRPS.

Anyone else into high-end denim (japanese and domestic selvedge). Personally I'd down to throw down a grip on nice denim, but the prices Rogan and PRPS is asking these days seems like a stretch. Seems like last year, they broke past the $200 barrier by going from $180 to $220. Today I was checking out Union NYC and now Rogans are all at $240 - $290 and the same exact denim PRPS was pushing last season for $240 is now $290. Granted PRPS is doing some nice stuff despit me still not being a fan of the short wide cut, but that seems awfully high even for a niche brand doing japanese selvedge. Granted I've dropped $450 for a pair of 45rpm's that were too sick to pass on, I don't think I'm willing to pay those kids of prices for domestic brands even if the denim is imported, or especially for domestic denim. Any one else into premium denim kinda turned off by this? On a similar note, what's up with all the companies also asking $50 - $65 for simple t-shirts?!

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