russia building new nukes

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/11/17...utin/index.html

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin announced Wednesday that his country's armed forces will soon have access to advanced nuclear missile systems unavailable in any other country.

"We are conducting research and are testing the most up-to-date nuclear missile systems, which, I'm sure, will be supplied to the armed forces in the near future," Putin told a conference of high-ranking military officials, according to a translation from Russia's Interfax News Agency.

"What is even more important, these systems will have no analogues in the other nuclear powers during the next few years."

The Bush administration said the developments in Russia's nuclear program are consistent with the Moscow Treaty, signed between President Bush and Putin in May 2002.

"We are confident that Russia's plans are not threatening and are consistent with its obligations, and I think are indicative of a new strategic relationship between the United States and Russia that is focused on reducing threats and increasing confidence," deputy State Department spokesman Adam Ereli told reporters.

The treaty, which required both sides to reduce their deployed strategic nuclear warheads to between 1,700 and 2,200 by 2012, was designed to establish a new strategic relationship between the two nations based on partnership and cooperation.

But State Department officials told CNN on condition of anonymity that although they don't think Putin's comments are anything to worry about, they will be seeking further clarification from the Russians about the specific modernizations in Moscow's program.

"As far as we can tell there is nothing to be concerned about, but Putin did not give a lot of detail," one official said. "We are trying to figure out what he meant. Did he mean what we think he means or is this something that is not covered by the treaty?"

Another official said that Putin's comments could be viewed as an attempt to impress his military leaders with assurances that Russia's weapons programs are competitive.

"This may well have been his way of talking to his defense folks," this official said. "But we are trying to find out more."

President Bush will meet with Putin in Chile later this week at a summit of Asian Pacific Economic Cooperation, where he is expected to discuss the matter, this official said

there was another article but i cant find it now it didnt downplay the statement as much as this one does.

Sounds like Bush's plan is to have Russia back us from N. Korea and Iran. Although, I'm sure the plan will backfire in our face..This really isn't my subject matter of choice...

sorry Russia... the cold war is over. you came in second.

all the solti in the world cant change that comerade.

what scares me most about this is it is a sign to the rest of the world that it is ok to devolpe nuclear arsenals, countrys like china egypt, india and pakistan ( both are already nuclear ) brazil and a few others it also makes it plain to these countries that what nuclear arsenals they have or were planning on devolpeing are not going to be sufficent and that they need to devolop stronger arsenals with longer missle ranges and better technology when nuclear disarmament should be the goal of the world at large, unless i am the sole person who is in control of the nukes in which case we all die minus everyone on 12oz prophet dont worry i will make sure we are taken care of to paint the post apcolyptic wasteland of the future.

oh yeah sorry about there being like 5 threads on this 12oz was messing up for me then thanks for cleaning it up for me.

I believe as soon as Bush started talking about his missile defense system to destroy any nuke shot at us, Putin told his people to get a stealthier and faster missle. Russia and the entire world was apposed to Bush's plan, but it's okay, he is a stront leader with convictions.

Originally posted by KING BLING@Nov 21 2004, 06:04 PM

I believe as soon as Bush started talking about his missile defense system to destroy any nuke shot at us, Putin told his people to get a stealthier and faster missle. Russia and the entire world was apposed to Bush's plan, but it's okay, he is a stront leader with convictions.

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man your funny.

well one of bush's first acts was to pull out of the anti icbm missle treaty with russia, that set it all in motion dont worry the world is going to hell and we are all going to die.

Originally posted by KING BLING@Nov 21 2004, 06:04 PM

I believe as soon as Bush started talking about his missile defense system to destroy any nuke shot at us, Putin told his people to get a stealthier and faster missle. Russia and the entire world was apposed to Bush's plan, but it's okay, he is a stront leader with convictions.

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Yeah the cold war got reactivated as soon as bush came into office with his plans for missle defense and nuclear bunker busters and shit. Not to mention all the crazy SDI shit he wants to half bake and look like a tough guy.

And it is also true that plenty of other countries have more incentive to create nukes now. Fucking beautiful. God bless Fuckmerikkka.

I heard Brazil has levitating centrifuges....

Originally posted by villain+Nov 21 2004, 07:54 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (villain - Nov 21 2004, 07:54 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-KING BLING@Nov 21 2004, 06:04 PM

I believe as soon as Bush started talking about his missile defense system to destroy any nuke shot at us, Putin told his people to get a stealthier and faster missle.  Russia and the entire world was apposed to Bush's plan, but it's okay, he is a stront leader with convictions.

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Yeah the cold war got reactivated as soon as bush came into office with his plans for missle defense and nuclear bunker busters and shit. Not to mention all the crazy SDI shit he wants to half bake and look like a tough guy.

And it is also true that plenty of other countries have more incentive to create nukes now. Fucking beautiful. God bless Fuckmerikkka.

I heard Brazil has levitating centrifuges....

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brazil will be a major player in world events in 20 years though not as a ally of the u.s.

i dont think any of us in our lifetimes will see a nuke bomb fall on anyone anywhere... its just a big dick contest

Lets hope that nuclear power remains a counterveiling measure. But with the deployment of tactical nukes, bunker busters, and DU stuff I think the envelope is being pushed. It could keep getting pushed further and further... in fact it probably will keep getting pushed if we keep using it. Not only that but nukes are becoming seen as a necessity to maintain sovereignty of your country.