[The Beer Thread]

Just a few off the top:

 

Augustiner Helles - Germany

Aventinus Weizenbock - Germany

Schneiderweisse Hefe-weizen - German

Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA

Brooklyn Lager - classic standby

Brooklyner Weissbock - best beer from Brooklyn Brewery, but its only available in the winter

 

Pretty much any Bavarian beer (helles or hefeweizen) is guarranteed to be good: Augustiner, Lowenbrau, Paulanar, Spaten, Hacker Pschorr, Schneider Weisse, Hofbrau...

 

Lately I'm really into IPA's and dunkelweizens. There's way too many to list.

[Graffiti and Architecture]

bump...give me more so i have something to read when i get to work tomorrow

[Graffiti and Architecture]

Originally posted by bobobi11

 

I understand what you are saying, but I think you have to look at your justification to answer this in some ways. If you consider architecture the work of an artist than by applying graffiti to their work, you are in essence doing the same as crossing out another writers work. You are disrespecting their work in the same manner. Does that make sense?

 

Yes, you are right, some justification is necessary to answer the question...i just don't want it to be the main focus of the thread.

 

I like what you said about how doing graffiti on a building is similar to going over another artist...That's kind of how I feel about it. Do other people see it like this? If so, does it bother you to go over another artist?

[Graffiti and Architecture]

i don't really want this to turn into another "how do you justify graffiti?" thread...i'm not asking for justification. i'm asking how you see your graffiti in relation to architecture.

 

do you think it disrespects the architect's work?

if not, why?

 

do you consider the architecture when planning or freestyling a piece? my observation is that not a lot of writers do this...wouldn't it be more interesting to see site-specific graffiti that related to the architecture or its environment?

[Graffiti and Architecture]

well, now that i think about it a little more...it might not matter so much if some one painted a building that i designed. here's my logic:

 

if i'm an architect, the most important thing to me would be to make my building a reality. once it was constructed, i would have accomplished that. whatever happens to it afterwards is inconsequential, since i have already succeeded in bringing my building to life...(which is after all the most important thing for an architect)

 

but that's only one way of looking at it, and i bet a lot of architects wouldn't look at it that way...

[Graffiti and Architecture]

Originally posted by iloveutensil

i dont know i like graffiti on buildings, if its this amazing building,

and i find graffiti to be amazing..then the two together in my mind make since.

 

[just playing devil's advocate]

yeah, but how about in the architect's mind? i bet it doesn't make too much since to him...he doesn't see it as a collaboration. he had a vision of a building, designed and constructed it, and no where in his vision did he imagine his perfect building with YOUR NAME on it.

[Graffiti and Architecture]

i hear that, seeking. i figure the architecture on most buildings is pretty generic...using your example, a dairy queen is probably not going to have any real architectural integrity, so it doesn't matter. but what if it was some revolutionary new building style...? and if that does matter, do you just use your own personal discretion as to which buildings are ok to hit and which ones aren't?

[Graffiti and Architecture]

I think this thread has potential for a good discussion...so come on, what are your opinions?

[Graffiti and Architecture]

I know that a lot of writers here consider their graffiti to be art. I also know that a lot of writers here show respect for certain artists, whether it's other writers, painters, sculptors, etc. That being the case, I was wondering how people here feel about architecture. After all, architecture is an art, and there are many creative architects that a lot of writers here would probably respect: Frank Gehry, Tadao Ando, Frank Lloyd Wright, and Rem Koolhaas just to name a few.

 

My main question is, if you do in fact respect architecture as an artform, how do you feel about doing graffiti on it? If I was an architect, I know that I would be very upset if someone painted my building, even if the graffiti was amazing...