i didnt say u had to use the nib form the kiwi sh*t.i said u need a nib some what similar to it...also, i just posted up a sugestion for people to expierement with, an idea, a project. sh*t i would go out and buy my self a kiwi to then make this shit. but some people like makeing there markers..for some odd reason..i just posted up something for the people that like this sh*t to try out.