thar112 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineone Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 make this shit bigger so the toys can read it. mad new jock toy ass kids think they can go hard before getting good at graff. i was on paper for four years before i rocked more than a tag or two. its even worse that when someone tells them that their style isnt good and needs work , even in a constructive way, they just take it as someone "rIdiN d@ W4V3". you cant get good without someone helping you out and telling you what you're doing wrong. That's where the real issue is, even though there's this big new online community of writers, the real communal aspect of writing that existed up until the early 2000s is almost completely gone. plus after these toys rock their scraggly ass scribbly fillins, none of us are dedicated enough to go out there and erase their ugly shit with some style. im from ny so i have a special love for the graff here but.... the fact is the scene sucks right now and it doesnt look like its gonna get any better, shit is on its last legs right now.. it doesnt matter where graffiti started what the fuck is ny doin today. the citys graff war is to blame for alot of the declining quality.. shit vallone got that law passed outlawing solid rolldown gates.. starting 2011 those are gonna start to fade out leaving even less spots to hit.. ny as a whole has changed dramatically it aint the same place it was when it birthed hiphop and graff. many other places got ny beat right now including LA you cant honestly go into the LA thread and tell me im wrong.. like i said im born and raised in ny so it hurts me to say that shit but its true. this interview with how&nosm sums it up pretty nice.. BS: How does graffiti in your current place differs from where you are? How&Nosm: The New York Graffiti scene is sadly dying out faster than you might think...if it's not dead already. It all started here, and rightfully so, they call those years the golden years of(subway) graffiti. Obviously it will never be the same, but even when the train writers were forced to leave the trains alone and instead dedicated themselves to painting murals, there was still a similar energy floating around in the NY scene. When we first got a taste of the scene writers were extremely competitive and always trying to innovate their styles, that was probably until the early 2000s. We guess the tougher and tougher laws and punishments against graffiti, and so called vandals, ended many writer's careers and that's what started the drastic decrease of graffiti in NYC . Unfortunately, you don't see many new upcoming writers who have the desire to become a great writer. Most just want to bomb and get the fame as fast as possible with little effort. They usually don't stick around longer than the 2-3 years it takes for the justice system to swallow them up. And if one has actually somewhat of a talent, he often wants to skip all the essential parts that make a well rounded writer--like painting trains, bombing hard, and at the same time doing big elaborate productions. They want to go straight to the gallery world, call it street art, and change their graff name to their government name. That stands true for the European graff scene too, but the difference is that Europe, and several other places, have enough new emerging artists to keep their scenes alive. Don't get us wrong, we love NY, but that's the ugly truth and reality...and we hope it will change soon because it’s hard to fight that image by ourselves. So stop doing walls with 50 dudes on a black background that have no style and instead try to change other writer's perceptions of what the NY graff is today--because most outsiders are looking at the NY graff scene with laughter these days. Nobody cares about someone's graff history or origin anymore, and people are tired of hearing what this and that guy used to do. Moving on and evolving is the best way to prove people are wrong about NYC graff scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo 139th Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 i be posting flicks with my girls mom in em what it is b .. she famous now b ..10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thar112 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 these may have been posted on here already i forget where i saw them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loyal2theGame Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Post more staten island shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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break_legs_ribs_100_bills Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Never mind just speaking my mind, I might get banned next you Run Forreat Run rock on my dude! IT's all love! Seen this on the ave, looks very much ewok influenced.. But caught my eye kinda dope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbogard Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 NO OFFENSE.. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY CARTOON CHARACTER WITH EYEBALLS AND TEETH GETS COMPARED TO EWOK.. I DO A LOTTA CARTOONS.. I CANT FRONT THOUGH. ITS HARD NOT TO GET INFLUENCED BY HIS SHIT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thar112 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 both probablyyy been posted before but w/e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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break_legs_ribs_100_bills Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 NO OFFENSE.. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY CARTOON CHARACTER WITH EYEBALLS AND TEETH GETS COMPARED TO EWOK.. I DO A LOTTA CARTOONS.. I CANT FRONT THOUGH. ITS HARD NOT TO GET INFLUENCED BY HIS SHIT. You Gotta admit mr. Bogarde if someone said hey your shit looks sorta like ewok? it's a compliment....No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnOuTi Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 vampire in brooklyn pretty sure theres snake1 tags too. few other head i think i saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbogard Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 FOR THE MOST PART.. NOT KNOCKIN HIS SHIT AT ALL. JUST SAYIN.. BUG EYED CARTOONS BEEN AROUND A LOT LONGER THAN HIS CHARACTERS.. JUST SAYIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
break_legs_ribs_100_bills Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I hear you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FACTORY_MADE Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 . you cant get good without someone helping you out and telling you what you're doing wrong. That's where the real issue is, even though there's this big new online community of writers, the real communal aspect of writing that existed up until the early 2000s is almost completely gone.. I get the feeling that graffiti has never been that idealistic. I think after the train era alot of the structuring of the game just devolved into kids with cans that wanted to get up. Just like today. Granted i think the bombers of the past couple decades were a little better. But maybe we just look at things that way now in hindsight. I can imagine for alot of writers coming out of the train era, the bombing of the late 90's mustve seemed like a step backward and they must've felt as disconnected from the shit going on then as alot of people feel about the scene now. I dont think there was all this apprenticeship going on, or was there? could anyone provide some deeper kind of insight? where u at my angry oz'ers of yesteryear? As far as i know people have been saying graffiti is dead since the late 80's but in the greater scheme of things it all just seems like history repeating itself to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jbogard Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 EXCELLENT GIF. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoCrimeDirtyCash Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 I get the feeling that graffiti has never been that idealistic. I think after the train era alot of the structuring of the game just devolved into kids with cans that wanted to get up. Just like today. Granted i think the bombers of the past couple decades were a little better. But maybe we just look at things that way now in hindsight. I can imagine for alot of writers coming out of the train era, the bombing of the late 90's mustve seemed like a step backward and they must've felt as disconnected from the shit going on then as alot of people feel about the scene now. I dont think there was all this apprenticeship going on, or was there? could anyone provide some deeper kind of insight? where u at my angry oz'ers of yesteryear? As far as i know people have been saying graffiti is dead since the late 80's but in the greater scheme of things it all just seems like history repeating itself to me. co-sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papo 139th Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 writers are mad sensitive and insecure all day b.. this aint wildstyle nigga... aint no together forever lets practice together shit nigga... get nice on your own b.. break away from them little crews and learn something b.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RUN FOREST RUN Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 HER NAME WAS NEVER PUT OUT THERE, YA THE ONES GIVIN HER HER WAVE RIGHT NOW CAUSING MAD ATTENTION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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