DSG Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 and and for v*sko- hes a street bomber- and hes done his job well....but now its moving into 'overkill' zone. my hat is well and truely off to him- but at this time in the movements life- he might be doing more damage to the scene now than good. this aint a diss- just speaking the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 ok, i know graffiti is piss poor and all, but let's dispell a few myths here: WELCOME TO THE NEW ERA OF WRITERS: WHERE BEEF IS EITHER RESOLVED WITH SOMEONE GETTING STABBED OR ABUSED OVER AN INTERNET FORUM violence in graffiti has been around almost as long as graffiti itself. internet forum shit talk (and all shit talk on the internet, period) has been around as long as the internet has been open to the public. WHERE WRITERS WITH TALENT ARE ARROGANT FUCKERS arrogance is evident in many people with talent (and unfortunately, also those without), not just graffiti writers. when the objective of graffiti is mostly ego driven, arrogance goes hand in hand. WHERE IT IS IN FASHION TO TAG IF YOUR A 15 YEAR OLD ATTENTION SEEKER if young kids didn't start writing (for whatever reason) then we wouldn't have the competant writers of today. everyone started writing because we thought it was "cool". that's the very nature of trends WHERE THE MEDIA WRITES ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT WHERE STEVE BEARDON KNOWS JACK SHIT ABOUT GRAFFITI the general public have always been bewildered about the mechanics of the graffiti world and have operated from a standpoint of fear and ignorance. while they are still pretty clueless, however, they have a better understanding now than they ever did. WHERE NEARLY EVERY STYLE IS BITTEN i would try and argue this point but i could't be fucked, and it would probably put most of you to sleep. it all depends on where you draw the line between influence and plagiarism. WHERE WHAT ONCE WAS A FRIENDLY COMMUNITY HAS TURNED HARDCORE again, the graffiti scene has been like this for a very long time. decades, even. WHERE WE STILL HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT WHAT THE FUCK WE ARE DOING i don't understand what you mean by this WHERE A CRACKDOWN HAS BEEN LAUNCHED ON GRAFFITI SINCE MARCH 2006 no, the graffiti battle is as old as graffiti itself. the only thing that changes is how aggressive it is. the graffiti war is a guarenteed vote-getter for politicians, it's not going away anytime soon. let me add though, that regardless of these measures, you still live in one of the easiest cities to write graffiti in in the world (not including the trains), and the life of a tag/throw/piece in the public eye is far longer than most other cities on earth. make the most of it. count yourselves lucky that you don't live in the US where in some states writing graffiti is categorised with violent crimes and can lead (after a few convictions) to life in prison (i wish i was exhaggerating). WHERE WRITERS HOLD NO RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER ANYMORE those that deserve it (we'll use banos as an example - he's someone we can all agree is an excellent and productive writer) do receive it. if you've been writing for 2 years, expect the road to respect and recognition to be a little longer. WHERE TRIVIAL BEEF RESOLVES IN TRULY AMAZING PIECES BEING DESTROYED AND CAPPED i think you mean "results in truly...", but i digress - this has also been going on for decades. i'll use cap mpc as an example. WHERE THE TOY VOSKO DESTROYS MELBOURNE WITH HIS GAY REPETITIVE THROWUPS throw ups are supposed to be repetitive. WHERE TAGS ARE PLACED AROUND PIECES TO GET IN "FLICKS" this has been happening for a few years now, and i agree that spot jocking is probably one of the worst things to come about during the internet age. WHERE THE MEANING OF HAVING A CREW HAS FUCKED UP in what way? a crew is a group of people who hang out and paint together. i don't see how that has "fucked up" WHERE IT IS COOL TO CONFORM AND DO WHAT YOUR MATES DO, TO BE HARDARSES graffiti is a male dominated activity. macho bravado comes with the territory WHERE WE HAVE FUCKED UP WHAT ONCE WAS A GREAT THING TO DO, WITH AMAZING STYLE AND GRACE. WE SHOULD ALL LEARN TO LIVE IN PEACE. true, it would be nice if everyone could "just get along" to use a corny ass catch phrase, but i'm afraid it's not going to happen any time soon. this is an ego driven activity, and with this many egos in one place, there is bound to be conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Remember the infamous scene from style wars when pink is trying to tell Cap that this attitude would be the downfall of graffiti in NY- and what happened?.... ....absolutely nothing. anyone that's been to nyc knows that graffiti is still very much alive and well there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reptile vs. Sub Zero Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 fuck cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rentakill Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 People think of CI as kings because they have been around for longer than RG, but over the past few years RG is the crew that have undeniably taken over. Its always RG and CI getting mentioned. What about WCA? If we are talking about style they are the kings. king king king kong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deathcrush Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Good posts pokemonmaster . Word to that Sir L*ps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 IM GONNA KILL A FEW BIRDS WITH ONE STONE HERE. THE REASON WHY I AND MANY OTHERS AROUND MELBOURNE DEPLORE VOSKO IS BECAUSE OF HIS WILLINGNESS TO DAMAGE MAD PIECES TO "BECOME KNOWN AS A TANK WHO CANNOT BE STOPPED". THERE WAS AN AWESOME PHIBS PIECE NEAR CANTEBURY STATION, A GREAT PIECE FROM PHIBS, AND THEN IN A FEW WEEKS AFTER IT WAS COMPLETED VOSK CAME AND DESTROYED IT WITH A SHITTY QUICK "VS" THROWIE. WHEN I MENTIONED THAT VOSKO WAS A TOY AND LOVED REPETITION, I MEAN THIS BY SAYING, OK, ONCE YOU HAVE SEEN ONE OF HIS THROWIES, YOU HAVE SEEN THEM ALL. BOMBERS LIKE RENKS, CARL ETC. HAVE VARIATION IN THEIR THROWIES (IE. FACES TO MAKE LETTERS ETC.) WHILE ALL WE SEE FROM VOSK IS MAYBE A CHANGE FROM THE K TO A C. THE ONLY FACES HES EVER DONE IN HIS THROWIES ARE JUST BASIC STICK FIGURE LIKE FACES IN THE O'S. I LIKE HOW THE GUY IS DETERMINED TO GET UP AND USUALLY STOPS AT NOTHING TO GET HIS STUFF UP, BUT HE NEEDS TO LEARN SOME RESPECT IN THIS GAME. IT ALSO BECOMES A BIT EXTREME WHEN YOU SEE A NICE, RECENTLY PAINTED, QUITE LARGE MILKBAR WALL BEING TRASHED BY VOSK WITH A FAT CAP WITH TAGS THAT SPAN THE SIZE OF 3 M X 1.5 M AROUND IN DIAMETER. IF HE COULD CHANGE HIS STYLE FOR ONCE, MAYBE WE WOULDNT GET SICK OF SEEING HIM UP EVERYWHERE. ITS ALWAYS BEEN A TREAT TO SEE THROWUPS FROM STAN, WUZLE, PEZR, ETC. BECAUSE THEY DONT GET UP AS MUCH AS MELBOURNE'S "KING OF BOMBING", ALAS THEIR THROWIES ARE AMAZING. AS IVE ALWAYS BELIEVED, QUALITY IS BETTER THAN QUANTITY. SAME GOES FOR ANYTHING REALLY. MOVING ON TO RG AND CI. ONE OF YOU MENTIONED THAT WHEN MERKS GETS CAPPED BY RG, HE GOES AND HAPPILY SLASHES ALL THEIR SHIT, BUT WHEN POSE CAPS HIM, HE DOES NOTHING. THIS IS BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT IF HE RETALIATES HE WILL MOST LIKELY GET SERIOUSLY INJURED OR WORSE. RG AND CI, THE BEEF IS STUPID AND TRIVIAL. THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST TALENTED WRITERS MELBOURNE HAS TO OFFER. IT IS SAD TRAVELLING DOWN THE LINES AND SEEING BEAUTIFUL PRODUCTIONS CAPPED BY THE RIVAL CREW. MOVING ON. BACKGROUNDS. OK, SO GRAFFITI BEGAN TO TAKE FLIGHT FROM THE STREETS OF NEW YORK YEAH? AND PEOPLE GENERALLY CAME FROM POORER BACKGROUNDS? WELL, THATS CHANGED TODAY. GRAFFITI IS STILL PRODUCED FROM WRITERS FROM POOR BACKGROUNDS, EXCEPT NOW, WRITERS WHO ARE WELL OFF ARE JOINING IN TOO, AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE PAST YEARS. I WOULD SAY THAT SOME OF MELBOURNE'S BEST ARE RICH LITTLE PRICKS. I SPOSE WHERE THIS IS GOING IS SAYING, WRITERS CAN WEAR WHATEVER THEY FUCKING WANT TO. I SEE ON OTHER FORUMS, WRITERS DISS OTHERS WHO ARE CLEARLY BETTER THAN THEM FOR WEARING "METROSEXUAL" CLOTHING. I SPOSE WHAT THEY MEAN BY THIS IS RUSTY, TSUBI, FRESHJIVE, ELWOOD ETC. INSTEAD OF THE WELL KNOWN CHAMPION JUMPERS WITH ADIDAS TRACKIES. FUCK! YOU MUST BE PRETTY ARROGANT TO BELIEVE THEY ARE LESS OF A WRITER IF THEY WEAR CLOTHES YOUR 'CULTURE' DOESNT AGREE WITH. IT SO HAPPENS THAT THESE FASHIONABLE ITEMS OF CLOTHING ARE WHAT PULL THE CHICKS WHO ARE FUCKING SWEET GENERALLY, BUT IM SURE YOUR PAINT-STAINED ECKO HOODIE WOULD ATTRACT HEAPS OF GIRLS TOO, EXCEPT THEY ARE PROBABLY FAT PILL-HEADED CHICKS WHO LIVE OUT IN FRANGA (NO OFFENCE). MOVING ON ONCE AGAIN. WHEN I SAY EVERYONE SHOULD GET ALONG, I MEAN NONE OF THIS "CAP ME AND ILL SHANK YA IN THE SPLEEN" SHIT. IMAGINE IF CAPPING WAS NEVER INVENTED? I KNOW THATS HARD TO IMAGINE, BUT MELBOURNE'S SCENE WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER, AND TOURISTS WOULD HAVE SOMETHING DECENT TO LOOK AT RATHER THAN JUST STENCILS. THAT BRINGS ME TO MY LAST POINT. STENCILS. JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. ITS A FORM OF GRAFFITI, AND CAN TAKE AS MUCH SKILL TO PULL OFF A HALF DECENT PIECE. I TRUST MOST OF YOU HAVE READ THE BOOK COMPILED BY JAKE SMALLMAN AND CARL NYMAN (STENCIL GRAFFITI CAPITAL: MELBOURNE). IN THAT BOOK SOME OF THE STUFF STENCIL ARISTS PULL OFF ARE ASTOUNDING. JUST LEARN TO ACCEPT THAT STENCILING IS NOT GOING TO GO, ITS PROBABLY JUST GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. ITS WORTH LEARNING TO LIVE WITH IT. I HOPE YOU ENJOYED MY ESSAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ K 1 D S U P 3 R ] Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 ^ Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 THAT BRINGS ME TO MY LAST POINT. STENCILS. JUST LEAVE THEM ALONE. ITS A FORM OF GRAFFITI, AND CAN TAKE AS MUCH SKILL TO PULL OFF A HALF DECENT PIECE. sorry mate, but this is quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said in the history of the english language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 sorry mate, but this is quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said in the history of the english language. UM SORRY? I SHOULD HAVE PHRASED THAT BETTER. IT CAN TAKE AROUND 3 DAYS OR EVEN MORE TO CUT OUT A STENCIL. I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT THAT WAY. I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE I SAID A STENCIL IS AS EASY TO PUT UP. SORRY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a_fiend Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 you guys realise all this bitching doesn't change anything on the streets, it just means i have to scroll through a whole page of bullshit to see a couple of flicks. And word to VOSKO, what a MAD CUNT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSHIT Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 This is the bitching i can actually be interested in. Yes its bitching but its better then you normal "fuck that guy is toy" "NO UR TOY" conversation/debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 UM SORRY? I SHOULD HAVE PHRASED THAT BETTER. IT CAN TAKE AROUND 3 DAYS OR EVEN MORE TO CUT OUT A STENCIL. I SHOULD HAVE PUT IT THAT WAY. I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE I SAID A STENCIL IS AS EASY TO PUT UP. SORRY. 3 days to cut a stencil? what, do you have parkinson's disease? stencils are for hacks that are either too afraid, or not talented enough to do real graffiti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOCAPSLOK1 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 SO WHAT YOURE SAYING IS THAT YOURE A STENCIL FAG RIPPING OFF MY USERNAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOCAPSLOK1 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 You, are an absolute fuck wit, who needs to pull ya head out of ya arse There are no writers round who can top CI they are the true kings... I dont givew a fuck if u say im riden their dicks.... At least I've got respect for those who truly deserve it, Not some 15 minute wonder, who dont deserve shit YEA YEA YEA..... COME AND TELL ME OVER A CUP OF TEA YA MINCEY FAGGOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOCAPSLOK1 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 There are no writers round who can top CI ALSO. THIS LINE NEEDS TO BE QUOTED SO PEOPLE CAN READ IT AND APPRECIATE ALL OF ITS COMEDIC BEAUTY. PLEASE. YOURE MAKING ME LAUGH SO HARD IM GONNA THROW UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 SO WHAT YOURE SAYING IS THAT YOURE A STENCIL FAG RIPPING OFF MY USERNAME TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH BRO IVE NEVER CUT A STENCIL IN MY LIFE, ALTHOUGH I HAVE FRIENDS WHO DO. YEP I AM RIPPING OFF YOUR USERNAME, GO HAVE A CRY YOU LANKY CUNT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBOCAPSLOK1 Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT HONKY TONK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 WHATEVER FLOATS YOUR BOAT HONKY TONK SHITTEST COMEBACK EVER. WELL IT IS FROM A SHIT WRITER SO YOU CANT EXPECT MUCH CAN YOU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rektify Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 WHO THE FUCK IS TURBANCAPSLOK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 WHO THE FUCK IS TURBANCAPSLOK THE INSECURITY BUILDS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TURBANCAPSLOK Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 YEA YEA YEA..... COME AND TELL ME OVER A CUP OF TEAQUOTE] AND YOUR CALLING ME A FAG? HAHAHAHHAHAHA :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AOTPrep Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 hahaha for like the whole page i just thought turbo caps lock was arguing with himself, hahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AOTPrep Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 sorry MG but i have to steal flicks again, i dont want this thread to become shit like tha last one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AOTPrep Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 some old flicks from MG from 2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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