crazy eddie
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lmao! nigga ive seen you rain internet hell fury on niggas before dont judge me!
eddie i was right next to drew when you declined to fight me AGAIN
so save it, you act as if anyone is remotely intrigued by you publicizing our petty squabbles you fucking bird.
here we go again... :D
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fm : why you go over me?
ce : cause i want to. d
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and dont act surprised... you know i been wanting to shoot another with you... before i almost had a heart attack... but lets see what happens this time.
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lol, now you wanna fight?
if we never chilled,
then who was that dorky kid buying beer to be down this whole time?
dont worry man ill give you a call later so you can scratch that itch.
lmao, it aint trickin if you got it. times have changed. lets bring the A game. we can even go where we went before...
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theres been an overwhelming wealth of flicks from the 80s in recent years thanks to many many generous contributors. back When you used to preach to me about how writing with style was for suckers, i would inhale those flicks on the reg.
http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122446&page=434
for further reference
lastly, you know nothing of the graff scene in queens, you trying to speak on it is a joke.
piecing isnt the only epitome of skill in graffiti, hands and throws are an outstanding artform as well. But i digress to my original argument. Theres more than enough reference for kids to study. The reason why they dont is because their dumber and lazier than ever before.
preach to you? we never chilled like that ALL... at all ... so that you can just swallow.
only times we chilled was when you passed out and i wrote on you... :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled: i still got those photos ... lmao... thats when we first met. rich white boy wrote all over you... but yeah, we never really chilled until that day you were asking to work for the team... to let me boy put you under his wing...
just so you dont forget... we still running this shit... so when ever you wanna meet up... you already know who to call... you already know... ill be there.
so for the lastly... which does come last... theres no piecing scene in queens... where are the production walls?... where are the deli pieces for the locals?... where are they? where are they?
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Here is my totally insignificant, inconsequential opinion on this convo over the last few pages...
-Transit is dead and that right there is a huge killer to the evolution of style; benching died and techniques were not passed on
-Most kids don't have the influence, imagination, skill, or paint to look beyond the streets and street bombing
-The majority of the paint in the city is locked up. This stops kids especially toys to invent paint... No paint means less practice, less graffiti, less development of skills, loss of racking technique (and the establishment of scrapyard selling markers to kids which cannot build a fuckin mop)
graffiti turned into something else, today you can be called a king in nyc with no trains and never once having entered a subway tunnel, wtf is that? i don't care who you are, if you didn't do either of those things, go away
lots of people write for flicks and convoluted fame over exploration and personal enjoyment, plus this forum exists, and rivalry is also diminished due to the death of transit
people get lost in the hype..
my thoughts
you got it...
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JIGGA WA? im jus sayin all the lil niggas wana chat on the fb and play xbox all day.
The discipline and desire to really sit the fuck down and study the craft of graffiti eludes alot of kids.
80s alot more teenagers were burning. Now niggas can barely do throwups. Too many distractions to the point its reshaping minds in my opinion. double edged sword.
also i dont know that you can speak for the intentions of past generations based off of "strong graffiti books".
( "" )lol the literary knife twist...
those "strong books" are kinda the only things with actual context that can be the closest to relate.
breaking windows, dondi, t- kid, cope2, graffiti kings, subway art, truck art, platform graffiti... ect ect are stand points that are creditable sources ... due to the fact that its from the writers... give or take a lie or two, you have so much more coming out over time that you can reference the time points and views of writers through such... "studying"
you mentioned the 80's "we werent there..." so where you talking burners? burners became a huge stand point in style for the bronx, alot of new and old pieces there... as for queens they have five points and no true piece scene with neighborhoods... and when it comes to brooklyn, hipsternation over there is doing their thing with the culture out... there from bed sty to green point... youll see a new coffee shop with heads rocking burners... but back to the 80's .... still a train era... ket mentions in the ris book for being the heads starting motions when the yards were closed?... so for the fight against the buff ... not sure when it started... i know it was won around 95? give or take those motion bombers and train bombers... so piece time hasnt really been on the mind for 15 years ... since... for sure... and as the paint supplies die... piecers piece become more and more money for "art" that is illegal... and who cares about a legal eagle... thats where the internet plays its rolls for self promoters... photographers... piecers and what ever esle you want... and develop as such... to anything it wants to be. 80s was also the time when people started to get paid ... so art and putting good shit out is the goal from the start... alot of people who got burn and started to get notice in the mid 80's...
so for the quick satisfaction society we "live" in... theres no time for piecing... just SWAG
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i've seen some of adek's other shit - lewy i'm not at all sure about - but i indeed do know that what adek usually has rocking doesn't speak on his abilities as a whole. if anything the uniqueness of the style in new york is more of a symbol of Adek thus he may uses it like that.
what i mean is that when most new dudes try to copy the stuff they see riding nowadays (particularly, Adek's and Lewy's signature throwups), it indeed can become of their full potential when it comes to style, because they see no reason to develop it any further because that's how they see some of the most of the up dudes' shit, their influences, as being, and see it as an overall acceptable way of carrying themselves. not knowing that Adek (and possibly lewy) just prefer to do their shit like that when they indeed have the ability to do a lot better.
to summarize: they probably could do it, but you're not seeing more than what there is to be seen.
yeah thats media war fare... we are making our own adds to get us attention to something we can ither most likely sell or work for...
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i agree, kids have all the time in the world to sit and look at graff on the internet and analyze and take it apart for hours.
The way i feel is that alot of kids do not have the mental capacity to do such.
We live in a society purposefully geared towards constant instant gratification and stimulation.
I feel like the generations following ours will be increasingly underdeveloped mentally, at;east in america.
Also without some context all the flicks in the world dont really mean shit.
ahhh thats where you are wrong, the younger generation gets hipper by the youth... proven science of human development... lil kids and their new time zone from bilingual brainwashing, to girls hitting periods earlier and development of their bodies, even kids first sexual in counters. Even the comfort zone with reflex curse words around piers, like when you used to say fuck it was to used to be bad, not its just used, the when the word shit got accepted to on tv, and that brought down the censorship level down a notch...
context is also a problem, people think these kids did these things with such goals in mind... and its like no, it was just something you did before college and thats when you should have stopped... kids were just having fun, this is all based on something that means nothing... the history of american graffiti and a few other strong books state that this was the only art form created by teens and young kids. and for most it was just socail clubs to party with bitches... and some point in nyc... there was a generation that started the whole you are on your own when it comes to learning and developing style, only a few kids out there come out strong with their own... for me all i need is a date for the picture... thats enough, cause if you know about your time lines and events you know what those people were around...
its just the best way to become famous in nyc... and i think we all follow this someone considering now that we see where this lifestyle has gotten people in the media...
step one, do graffiti to get your name out there... no matter style... (use the free media exsposure from the culture...) more credit than and less talking than going through the art channels.
step two, get some paper, make mad art at home,
step 3! get a gallery and score some high paying sales and design jobs... 'cause thats where most of us end up if this shit does take it to some where decent... but for writers out there, theres only a few being paid to write their name... otheres work for mtv, graphic designs...
society has taken a new place and is now getting to the point of getting older... people talk about cell phones and other things the public uses for this, and its not really the problem, theres more police... much much more, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department
read more, the problem in this culture is the people who dwell... all these ot talking shit like things arent like they used to... they NEVER WERE FOR ANY generations... so please... keeeeep it moving...
many factors to put together,but mental capacity... has exceeded us in the new generations... like EVERYTHING ELSE ...
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hella old heads stay preaching that style is as essential as getting up itself. those who say otherwise is on some bullshit.
new niggas seeing dudes like adek and lewy up stay making them think they can get away with mediocre character throws and those down syndrome version cross-breed cooe's and les' styles.
are you calling them mediocre ?" lewy and adek " cause if so, i d k man... they been deloping those styes for a while, adek with a newer ny flow and lewy with an older noodle like ny style... cause if you stand them next to people like, nekst healer Tlok cake87 ... ect ect... they have a total different style that isnt really that close to ny throws...
getting up its self is part of being a toy... and is step one... even if you stay at home and practiced and thought about your style before going out there... you still a toy... in the streets...
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yeah of course, but we are talking about visual style only... cause you cant learn about THE KING OF STYLE CASE2 in the streets... youd need the internet or a book
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you forgetting the age range ... those who are developing now... are 15.. so overwhelming them with that much just makes it worse.... they start jocking all over and it turns into scramble... fuck a book the interent should be enough to help that, but its an overwhelming thing to realize.
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i fucking love the ignore list!
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yeah, but for the last ten years there hasnt been much to look at but throws... so that goes for... all the kids who were born in 1990... and ect... they got to see the left overs of the buff from people born in the 80's started writing in the mid 90s?... the buff has been an evolving as much as this(graffiti culture) and they run concurrent considering the relationship that CLEARLY exisits... so for those stylish throws and tags... toys cant even stare at it long enough to grasp the concept... style... there are many ny style writers out there... just not as live as 95!('cause it's not.) the man has been hip for a while now. so for the whole nyc is dead this and that... this is the birth of style... people come here to flex style... to make names...
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