gang graffiti is marking turf,it has nothing to do with getting up.they couldnt get up cause they cant leave there turf which is sad since the only time they get to travel is when they do a state bid...political graffiti has been going on for years,also when bands would go on tour they would leave there mark.punk rock graffiti has been going on in parts of europe for along ass time.the vandals video didnt really show anything other then vandalism,but the tags by junior161 and a couple of other cats they showed on trains.thats why alot of the gangmembers of ny looked up to those cats cause they were doing something they couldnt,which was leave the neighborhood.everybody has there own history in ny it moved from the streets to the trains. the trains is what it was about there was no subway in the world like it. not philly,detroit,chicago no where.and as the saying goes all good things come to a end. europe has takin it to another level.much respect as for LA u guys got some good writers out there yet climbing up a pole on the back of a freeway sign to do a burner WHATEVER standing on a platform and watching your name go by now thats priceless