Elena Delle Donne Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 you guys have fallen off. i would've expected five pages of insanity here at least. i don't have any big takes here though. i think you can see a clear through line between the los angeles train break-ins, the rail strike that almost happened, and this, which is that the railroads are singularly focused on cutting their operating costs to find stock buybacks. nothing else explains how cheap the american class 1 railroad is... nothing. even in painting freight graffiti, yards around me are lower stakes. workers don't care like they used to. more trespassing by random people, more junk on the tracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 i worry for family/friends in northeast ohio and western pa, we're not gonna know the consequences for a long time. east palestine is poor. rural. but folks there know the history of the region, which is exactly like this incident: big industry pays politicians to get elected. "creates jobs" etc etc you know the lines. big industry fucks up. big industry assures everyone that this is fine, politicians repeat it. people realize their wells and homes are poisoned. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share Posted February 26, 2023 the other angle that not enough people are talking about... all the hazmat cars that derailed have to do with the plastics industry. the biggest issue of our lifetimes will be using less of it and disposing of what we have. don't think for a minute that it's not just as bad that we incinerate tons and tons of waste plastics of all kinds every day. richly ironic that it happened 30-odd miles from the nations newest plastic factory of sorts, the ethylene cracker in monaca pa 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 On 2/24/2023 at 9:40 PM, metronome said: I came across a pretty funny tweet thread about this the other day. I'm gonna go look for it again to share here. Here we go: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 I got rained on a little bit yesterday. Am I good or what's happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metronome Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Elena Delle Donne said: the other angle that not enough people are talking about... all the hazmat cars that derailed have to do with the plastics industry. the biggest issue of our lifetimes will be using less of it and disposing of what we have. don't think for a minute that it's not just as bad that we incinerate tons and tons of waste plastics of all kinds every day. richly ironic that it happened 30-odd miles from the nations newest plastic factory of sorts, the ethylene cracker in monaca pa If you're ever bored and want to see what some terrible industrial incidents look like the CSB (Chemical Safety Board) posts investigation videos. So many of them are just down to completely neglected safety interlocks and eroded regulations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metronome Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Something else that's bothered me a bit about this whole thing is Buttigieg being scapegoated. He's only been in his role for a year, and these types of accidents are the result of years of withered regulation adding up. Typical swiss cheese model incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 I’ve been breathing in toxic fumes my entire life in north east Ohio. This ain’t nothing new 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 hours ago, Dark_Knight said: I’ve been breathing in toxic fumes my entire life in north east Ohio. This ain’t nothing new The rest of us haven't built up an immunity to toxic waste yet, king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 10 minutes ago, mr.yuck said: The rest of us haven't built up an immunity to toxic waste yet, king. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim540 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, mr.yuck said: The rest of us haven't built up an immunity to toxic waste yet, king. Norfolk Southern is playing the long game with us. Slow and steady wins the race. And yes that is a water treatment plant next to the largest coal processing terminal in the US. Wa Edited February 27, 2023 by grim540 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 @grim540I didn't know you were from around the way. Or I forgot. Hah. I was trying to find a way into that yard about a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 2/26/2023 at 2:31 PM, mr.yuck said: I got rained on a little bit yesterday. Am I good or what's happening? i feel like there's too much atmospheric movement to keep acid rain there, but i am not knowledgeable at all on the science behind this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 35 minutes ago, Elena Delle Donne said: i feel like there's too much atmospheric movement to keep acid rain there, but i am not knowledgeable at all on the science behind this Im sure I'm good. In the concentration that large plume of black smoke was, I'm sure that shit was terrible. Spread out over 10s of thousands of square miles, not as bad. I did watch a video of some scientific weather jerk off was recording air quality and has been doing so every day for his job for the past 20 years. He said he had never recorded numbers as high all up and down the east coast as after the wind blew that black smoke cloud on over. Then the rain douched us in that shit. Maybe it all blew out to sea before the rain came. We'll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Oooopsies https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/04/us/clark-county-norfolk-southern-train-derailment/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 18 hours ago, LUGR said: Oooopsies https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/04/us/clark-county-norfolk-southern-train-derailment/index.html I think there was one in Arizona a couple weeks ago too. Also hazmat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 2 hours ago, KILZ FILLZ said: I think there was one in Arizona a couple weeks ago too. Also hazmat. I haven’t seen anything reported on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/us/ohio-train-derailment.html another one ohios freight scene goes so hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 19 hours ago, LUGR said: I haven’t seen anything reported on that. I was wrong. Semi truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUGR Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Dark_Knight said: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/us/ohio-train-derailment.html another one ohios freight scene goes so hard. They off the rails out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:22 AM, Dark_Knight said: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/05/us/ohio-train-derailment.html another one ohios freight scene goes so hard. it is good that americans are being reminded that trains, broadly speaking, derail all the time. it's mostly minor but the risk of something much worse is pretty important! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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