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My half assed guess:

 

US has been diminished on the geopolitical world stage with the bungled Afghan withdrawal so it’s just Russia being Russia and capitalizing on it 

 

US isn’t currently in a position to potentially kick off WW3 over another useless dirt patch 

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 Hasn't russia basically had the Crimean Peninsula and donetsk regions hemmed in for about 8 years now.

 think the media really bumping this one.

 

On 1/26/2022 at 12:22 PM, mr.yuck said:

Russia’s been fucking with Ukraine. I feel like they cut the whole countries lights off a few years ago.

 didn't they just do it this recently to Turkmenistan Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan?

 

 

17 hours ago, ndv said:

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розбити!

 

 

 

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On 1/26/2022 at 3:26 PM, Kults said:

My half assed guess:

 

US has been diminished on the geopolitical world stage with the bungled Afghan withdrawal so it’s just Russia being Russia and capitalizing on it 

 

US isn’t currently in a position to potentially kick off WW3 over another useless dirt patch 

 

the history of russia and ukraine is long, like hundreds of years long. as ex kgb putin has surely understood ukraine and crimea to be geopolitically russian for as long as he's been alive. crimea, which russia annexed years ago, is a semi autonomous region that was always russia leaning anyways. so it was easy to go in and, say, hand out russian passports to people before overthrowing their government and installing a puppet. 

 

i don't know how likely it is that he actually invades the rest of ukraine unless he can get the country to continue to fracture and balkanize, perhaps by continuing to fund/support civil war there like he has in the past. in ukraine, like poland, there are a number of groups but they fall into two contingents — one that is more russia leaning, that believes their identity and loyalties are closer to russia, and may have a russian bloodline. another contingent is decidedly more western, pro EU and pro NATO. the rest of ukraine is more aligned with the latter ideology to my knowledge. 

 

my belief is that he kinda wants to see what happens and thinks he can maybe get nato to pull back some bases or missiles, a theme we've seen in the region since the cold war when we first planted missiles out there.

 

to answer the missile bases question you need to answer the "who's the aggressor?" question. and on that i don't really know enough to know. 

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Putin is worth 200 billion himself, and he's not like an American President. He really, really runs shit in Russia almost like the mob ran Sicily. Putin is also heavily invested in energy, natural gas to be exact. Guess where the pipes Russia pumps is biggest export (natural gas) run through, and guess who's thinking about playing with big worms money like smokey.

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Also no doubt I'm anti war on this, and everything else down to the drug war. If Ukraine wants to play chicken with Russia, they should do it in their own car, not NATO's. TBH every Ukrainian in existence, and all the Natural gas in Europe isn't worth as much to me as a single 19 year old kid from here that just wanted a Dodge Charger. Flexing against Russia, especially during winter put's the F in FJB for me.

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19 hours ago, nicklesndimes said:

sometimes when i watch the news right now, and see russia bullying their corner of the planet....i wonder if americans looked like that much(or even worse..) of an asshole to the rest of the world 20 yrs ago in the middle east.

 

I am sure yes and no depends on the perspective or what other counties mainstream media wants them to believe.  However, Ukraine didn't fly any planes into Russian finance buildings.  Furthermore, we had the bush's in office and they will use any excuse to start a war or stage a coup over anything oil related.  So yes, bush's can be a-holes, no not all white americans are related to the bush's.  Hahahaaa

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Kinda being funny here but not really.  It's kinda funny how a 3rd world country all of a sudden becomes 1st world relevant to the oil majors.  In other words, it's fun y how big business uses anything they can to raise prices for any reason the can. 

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15 minutes ago, mr.yuck said:

Spectacular. Ukraine is winning world war twerk!

 

I think that's where putin comes in.  In socialism, the word 'Our' 🙄 is basically mine but ours 😉.  He wants all that Ukrainian twerk to himself, ' the state'.  

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