mr.yuck Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) I was having a conversation with a family member the other day about how great America was and how great our system of everything was. By the end of the conversation my family member looked like they were about to cry. Not because I envoked some earth shattering new perspective upon them, but more along the lines of frustration because 'I just dont get it.' One of the main points I was attempting to make was about the psychological conditioning of the American people predicated on myth, falsehoods and at times lies. An example of this is something as innocuous as our symbol of freedom; Americas favorite bird, the bald eagle. The bird is always pictured as being completely bad ass. When you hear an eagle in commercials, they are vicious, they are powerful, and their calls are described as 'Screaming'. None of this could be farther from the truth. This so called apex predator of the sky is really just another scavenger feeding off the scraps of another animals kill. They have even been known to steal other birds kills. That screaming eagle sound bite you hear in commercials is also a lie. The actual sound a bald eagle makes is so rediculous for its size, they are dubbed over with the call of the red tailed hawk. It almost seems that the real bald eagle is a better representation of the country than Its Hollywood counterpart. So what? Why? Why not just choose a tougher bird if you want to be seen as tough? If this topic interests you, I will drop more and also further my research on it as well. If this thread needs to be moved, put it where it should go. Edited April 27, 2021 by mr.yuck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Being a fake bad ass is about as pro-American as it gets. Being fake anything is about as American as it gets. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 think it's pretty good as far as an eagle goes... but yeah the cry is a touch underwhelming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Made my dogs head go sideways so that was a good chuckle. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, abrasivesaint said: Being a fake bad ass is about as pro-American as it gets. Being fake anything is about as American as it gets. This is so true it hurts. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 The eagle call getting altered is so true to the American way. America is so obsessed with the image of being something, rather than actually being something. The whole fake it til you make it mentality. Just gotta hope no one who is ever really about whatever life you choose to portray ever calls you out for being a charlatan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 hours ago, mr.yuck said: I was having a conversation with a family member the other day about how great America was and how great our system of everything was. By the end of the conversation my family member looked like they were about to cry. Not because I envoked some earth shattering new perspective upon them, but more along the lines of frustration because 'I just dont get it.' One of the main points I was attempting to make was about the psychological conditioning of the American people predicated on myth, falsehoods and at times lies. An example of this is something as innocuous as our symbol of freedom; Americas favorite bird, the bald eagle. The bird is always pictured as being completely bad ass. When you hear an eagle in commercials, they are vicious, they are powerful, and their calls are described as 'Screaming'. None of this could be farther from the truth. This so called apex predator of the sky is really just another scavenger feeding off the scraps of another animals kill. They have even been known to steal other birds kills. That screaming eagle sound bite you hear in commercials is also a lie. The actual sound a bald eagle makes is so rediculous for its size, they are dubbed over with the call of the red tailed hawk. It almost seems that the real bald eagle is a better representation of the country than Its Hollywood counterpart. So what? Why? Why not just choose a tougher bird if you want to be seen as tough? If this topic interests you, I will drop more and also further my research on it as well. If this thread needs to be moved, put it where it should go. FWIW, the turkey was originally in the running to be our national symbol but was beat out by the eagle. I like your premise, but not your example per se. Birds have more than just one call, so it's easy to take that eagle above and say that doesn't sound fierce because it's not screaming. Doesn't being able to take away another animal's food make the eagle higher on the food chain? Eagles eat snakes for real, and that's one of the more common patriotic images. Fighting eagles will also lock up with each other and fall from the sky, sometimes smashing into the ground together. That's pretty tough. More to your point though, for the number of patriotic Americans who use the eagle as a symbol of America, I'd wager most have never seen one IRL and even less are concerned with their preservation and resurgence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, One Man Banned said: More to your point though, for the number of patriotic Americans who use the eagle as a symbol of America, I'd wager most have never seen one IRL and even less are concerned with their preservation and resurgence. A few years ago i was on a boat in Maine and we look over and a bald eagle is flying along side us, it was rad. It was so fucking American i almost invaded a nearby town for their oil when i got back to land. 2 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 24 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said: A few years ago i was on a boat in Maine and we look over and a bald eagle is flying along side us, it was rad. It was so fucking American i almost invaded a nearby town for their oil when i got back to land. You could have peed into the ocean or shot a whale, lazy ass American. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 WTF do I know tho, everything I know about 'Merica and patriotism came from wrasslin and various Stallone/Bronson/Eastwood fliks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 14 hours ago, mr.yuck said: About these. I have nothing against anthropomorphism but as a dude who enjoys nature sometimes I want a shirt that reflects just that, and trying to find one for especially a bald eagle can be difficult. They're always doing some shit they don't do in nature or are pictured against flags and shit. I guess a bald eagle that can ride a Harley may appear kind of bad ass but it's meh for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tails0nE Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 the only eagle i really care about.. i mean look at those low rates.. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.yuck Posted April 27, 2021 Author Share Posted April 27, 2021 @One Man BannedMy point still stands though. The attributes associated with the eagle are still fictitious. Ill drop another post with a better thought out more discussable topic when I get done with dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 A bird riding a motorcycle, idk that sounds dope af tbh playboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, mr.yuck said: @One Man BannedMy point still stands though. The attributes associated with the eagle are still fictitious. Ill drop another post with a better thought out more discussable topic when I get done with dinner. Please, expound. Until you get back... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Have also seen a bald eagle in real life while on a boat. shit was pretty cool. Didn’t expect us to have any in SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 There’s a bald eagle nest at my sons school. In turn there’s a bunch of creepy old men that can get away with sitting in the parking lot with binoculars all day. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 4/27/2021 at 5:55 AM, abrasivesaint said: Being a fake bad ass is about as pro-American as it gets. Being fake anything is about as American as it gets. I thought that was a Chinese thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrasivesaint Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said: I thought that was a Chinese thing. When it comes to consumer goods, absolutely, ha. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Affliction shirts come to mind under the "fake bad ass" title too. You can buy those at walmart with no prior fighting experience. Reality check though -> people have been doing this with ball sports teams for decades. Fake foot ball bad ass -> paints face/stomach, tears down large bag of lays on couch, and washes down with miller high life. Football team sticker on back window of 1/4 ton pickup truck that sees homedepot ~3x a year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Humans in general love to watch accomplished people while cosplaying the role. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Knight Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 (edited) UFC is the perfect example with affliction shit. Ever been to a bar when a fight is on? Everyone there all of a sudden has monster dick and is a certified badass. It’s hilarious seeing how malleable the human mind is. Edited April 28, 2021 by Dark_Knight Auto correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 Oh yeah, also don't forget.... made in China affliction shirt and football fan memorabilia. I've watched the "To Catch a Smuggler" show before where they busted large shipments of counterfeit sports merchandise like jerseys and shit from China. Guess what too, it's not even some "evil Chinese person" doing all of this. It's some "evil american" "neighbor" of yours that is agreeing to bring this shit in and sell it for profit. I can tell that a few people reading this will be like, "what's wrong with doing that, it's just capitalism at work." When I was in high school I had a friend that his family would go to Mexico quite often. They'd bring back a lot of Oakley sunglasses and Duny & Burke purses.... and then sell them for super fucking cheap, but profit none the less. Why do people want to fake the funk? I'm not sure. I don't like knock off shit or counterfeit products because they're cheap and shitty most of the time. The knock off chinese shit has been plaguing the automotive aftermarket for years. They will put plackards on parts that say HKS or Greddy or whatever big name brand is out there. It's not even subtle counterfeiting, it's like straight up I made some fake shit and put your name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Dirty_habiT said: I thought that was a Chinese thing. Well, they are big into knock offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 I have to disagree about the Bald Eagle. Them shits are spectacular every time I see one. Especially that move where they scoop large fish that hang too close to the surface of the water. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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morton Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I was thinking about trying to find some good songs about or country but have gotten distracted in not finding "proud to be an american? fuck you" that I thought was born against. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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