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yup...trump is sending us all back to work next fucking week

 

the covid rollercoaster is not done with reaching its peak yet.  We're gonna have alot more deaths in a few months.

 

Now i'm worried about the power grab thing.

 

 

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Okay just putting it out there  in case you;'re stuck at home and need to practice your screenprinting.  Limited run shirt for the channel 0 heads so we can remember these troubled times/over blo

I know its not MS Paint, and I feel like I have failed my duties on C.Zero due to it not being mspaint. 

re: a few pages back    saw this on IG and it’s a good picture of how to get food off of the food you just ate.  Great way to start veggies without having to germinate seeds 

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22 hours ago, One Man Banned said:

This right hurr.  Went to see the man, it was a kind of funny exchange in an attempt to be Covid free.  They don't want to make a lot of trips around, know things could get more restricted, and they got a ton of fresh bud to move.  

The result being, they cutting prices to move more quickly.  Erybody wins!  

my guy is doing dead drops rn to avoid contact.

Also no cash unless you send a video of the cash being sanitized.

Not even joking.

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I ended up having to go to my third string weedman due to supply shortages.

This guy w dreads got his baby mama to drive him over at midnight... then she and kid waited in the car and he was like wanna smoke,

Bro go feed your family w this money im paying you fuck

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man this cough aint letting up, now im not even smoking this weed. Jadakiss laugh

 

Also being restricted has me realizing my GF has a way worse fast food addiction than I ever knew.

 

 

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Watch as the COVID-industrial complex monetizes on the poor.

 

It will intersect with the military-industrial complex by having poor kids who can't afford shit to join up.

 

It will also intersect with the prison-industrial complex by jailing and fining the poor and middle class with petty shit.

 

It will finally intersect with the poverty-industrial complex as prices hike to astronomical numbers while at the same time banks make a killing off high interest rate small loans and credit cards.

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1 hour ago, glorydays said:

President is itching to "starting the country" back up so he is having his scientists research whether it is ok to send the young and the strong back to work to get the economy up and going again.

Superseding the states' decisions on staying at home is, I guess, a mild power move.

I am getting bored at home. But the risk he's taking with sending us all back out? I don't know anymore. The news seems to be only interested in what Cuomo and New York has to say.

I think you’re right. Eventually we have to start working again or the preventive measures will do more damage than the actual virus 

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4 minutes ago, Kults said:

I think you’re right. Eventually we have to start working again or the preventive measures will do more damage than the actual virus 

But i don't know if that would be safe for the rest of the country or not

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There will probably be waves of this shit hitting.

This is fucked.

Until we get a vaccine which at best case scanrio would be like end of the year, early 2021?

I know they are Rushing B with that rn

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2 minutes ago, glorydays said:

But i don't know if that would be safe for the rest of the country or not

likely not but at what point are we doing more harm than good by grinding society to a halt indefinitely 

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2 minutes ago, Kults said:

likely not but at what point are we doing more harm than good by grinding society to a halt indefinitely 

the thing is, COVID looks like, and i may sound insensitive about this, fully designed to kill off weaker people.

That sounds fucking horrible, i know, but it happened with the spanish flu and every other super flu that's been "cured" before.

 

It's as if nature was tired of the human population getting too big and the flu finally hit the genetic lottery that will kill off a number of our elderly.

This flu will kill people whether we go back to normal or not.

 

and what is the tactic of herd immunity? at least 92% of the population needs to be infected with COVID and live for it to finally die down.

so we need to all get infected whether we like it or not.

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50 minutes ago, Kults said:

Eventually we have to start working again or the preventive measures will do more damage than the actual virus 

Too late for that.

 

But think it through... Yeah, everyone rather have a staycation than go to work. Many are actually still in panic mode. But we're entering the second week of most the nation being shut down. Many businesses are well past being able to work through this situation. Though a 10 days ago, they said we were 10 days behind Italy, I think we're likely a solid month away from seeing the numbers crest. Even if we cut that down to two weeks (though even a month is conservative considering how big and diverse our country is), that means in 2 weeks we see some far larger numbers, in turn we see the panic deepen, so you really think anyone will be ready to return to work and kick start the country then? So instead we're looking at at least another month of shutdown and an exponential increase in failed businesses that translate into an exponential increase in livelihoods collapsing. Yep, we can certain wait for the Fed to print more money and send out more checks as we all sit home and do increasingly stupid Corona Challenges on Instagram, but this is gooing to progress very much like procrastinating for that college final... Longer we wait, the greater the pain.

 

There's no good answer here... People are going to die. We can try to minimize it as we see nations doing, but at a certain point you need to take emotion out of the discussion and crunch data to form the most pragmatic response to the situation as we can.

 

Seems not everyone subscribed to the numbers I crunched on my Italy analysis a few pages back, but my last post regarding testing should be a little easier to wrap minds around... If we test 100k Americans a day, it will take over 9 years to test everyone in the country. Think about the logistics on that and then ask yourself why the media and politicians keep screaming about how we need to test everyone. Thats not to say that nobody should be tested, but is to say that its hugely disingenuous to see how your leaders and media are presenting problems and solutions.

 

Open your eyes and use your brains, but following the panic'ed mob isn't going to help anyone.

 

Just sayin'.

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i don't have the strength to argue

 

and we are all coming at this from an outsider point of view

 

believing in a talking window is as dangerous as believing in an imaginary friend that grants wishes from the clouds

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15 minutes ago, glorydays said:

i don't have the strength to argue

 

and we are all coming at this from an outsider point of view

 

believing in a talking window is as dangerous as believing in an imaginary friend that grants wishes from the clouds

You can still do a little homework and add some context where possible.

 

Influenza: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

 

I'd be interested if Covid will be the same line item for this years seasonal flu or not, but in comparison to past influenza's, whether this is scientifically categorized as such or not, we can still compare the death totals.

 

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Versus: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

 

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Not saying this situation isn't bad, but lets analyze data before buying into the idea that this is indeed the apocalypse its being made out to be.

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@misteraveni believe COVID is in a family all its own...the entire corona virus family is not in line with the regular flu that comes out every year

 

the shape and RNA of the corona family is, i've seen from videos, a different strain all together

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7 minutes ago, glorydays said:

@misteraveni believe COVID is in a family all its own...the entire corona virus family is not in line with the regular flu that comes out every year

 

the shape and RNA of the corona family is, i've seen from videos, a different strain all together

Could well be, I'm definitely not qualified to speak to the biology of this thing. But adding the numbers up is grammar school math. Even if these are entirely different, death toll is still death tool. Even when compare it to anything else that takes lives from car accidents to obesity, so far we haven't seen this thing stack bodies anywhere near in the ballpark of what generally kills humans each year.

 

And yeat again, I'll say this... Take it seriously, wash your hands, avoid people and do what you can to avoid getting other people sick, especially old people. But at the same time, dont just succumb to the panic and hysteria that seems to be gripping so many people. Use your brain, look at the data and draw a conclusion based upon actual evidence and not the sensationalist headlines being repeated every few minutes.

 

Has anyone actually seen any significant news beyond the latest dumb shit Trump or whoever has said or the fact that they can't test and have run out of masks after the whole world panic bought the global supply? Probably a reason the news keeps repeating the same speculative reports over and over and over... There's very little new actual news to report.

 

Just my opinion. Feel free to make up your own mind, but try and use your head when you do.

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1 minute ago, misteraven said:

Could well be, I'm definitely not qualified to speak to the biology of this thing. But adding the numbers up is grammar school math. Even if these are entirely different, death toll is still death tool. Even when compare it to anything else that takes lives from car accidents to obesity, so far we haven't seen this thing stack bodies anywhere near in the ballpark of what generally kills humans each year.

 

And yeat again, I'll say this... Take it seriously, wash your hands, avoid people and do what you can to avoid getting other people sick, especially old people. But at the same time, dont just succumb to the panic and hysteria that seems to be gripping so many people. Use your brain, look at the data and draw a conclusion based upon actual evidence and not the sensationalist headlines being repeated every few minutes.

 

Has anyone actually seen any significant news beyond the latest dumb shit Trump or whoever has said or the fact that they can't test and have run out of masks after the whole world panic bought the global supply? Probably a reason the news keeps repeating the same speculative reports over and over and over... There's very little new actual news to report.

 

Just my opinion. Feel free to make up your own mind, but try and use your head when you do.

Its the capitalist directive...create a scare that plunges the stock market, buy up, then come out with a solution that makes the markets bear again.

 

and i agree...fucking Italy just lost 800 people TODAY...goddamn, son

 

i think all of this panic is so that wall street can make a decent buck for the short term

 

for example, senator richard burr offloaded ALL of his stock a week before the pandemic announcement...that weaselly motherfucker made a pretty coin off the flu 

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As I understand it, its a SARS family virus. And as I understand it SARS viruses have a reproduction rate that is 2.5-6ish?

For the current strain the experts are estimating around 3 in reproduction rate.

 

The influenza seems to be between 1.2 and 2.4 in reproduction rate.

So the spread is massive, compared.

 

Its also completely new in a human population so we dont really know any details yet.

But there seems to be quite high numbers needing medical help to get through it, and then the numbers really matter.

Too many sick at the same time and death numbers going wild.

Lets hope that does not happen anywhere, but lets be as careful as possible til we actually know what this virus is.

 

And as far as I understand, testing is the only way to get new data.

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51 minutes ago, spiro said:

As I understand it, its a SARS family virus. And as I understand it SARS viruses have a reproduction rate that is 2.5-6ish?

For the current strain the experts are estimating around 3 in reproduction rate.

 

The influenza seems to be between 1.2 and 2.4 in reproduction rate.

So the spread is massive, compared.

 

Its also completely new in a human population so we dont really know any details yet.

But there seems to be quite high numbers needing medical help to get through it, and then the numbers really matter.

Too many sick at the same time and death numbers going wild.

Lets hope that does not happen anywhere, but lets be as careful as possible til we actually know what this virus is.

 

And as far as I understand, testing is the only way to get new data.

Go have a look at the treatment for SARS in comparison. 

 

Viruses are a construct of nature and most things in nature that succeed within natural selection do so by finding ways to propagate / reproduce. Occasionally you see some truly nasty shit like Ebola and SARS, but those sort of deadend themselves pretty quickly because they kill the host, which in turn kills the virus. This is why most of the time you see either massive transmission rate or massive death rate, but very rarely a combination of the two as they work counter to each other. But so far, the mortality rate on this is fairly low if you actually look at the numbers.

 

I think testing is largely irrelevant as said before. Most people need to just stay home and avoid getting sick or work through the process of being sick so that we can free up the medical system to treat people that are critically effected by this. Knowing who's positive only matters if we're expecting that individual to interact with a lot of other humans. Since most of us are locked down, knowing whether we're infected or not makes little difference when there is no vaccine or cure or even a treatment beyond whats given to those suffering from life threatening pulmonary complication.

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