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12 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Monopoly, or rather the "price gouging" a monopoly leads to is almost always caused by government interference on "unchecked" capitalism. 

 

I may be misunderstanding so if i’m repeating what you’re trying to say i apologize, but could you not argue that “monopolies” are being created THROUGH government interference via lobbying. That a corrupted government now does not serve it’s purpose but serves the monopolies. Also often suppling an illusion that there are truly more options than ones presented by these monopolies? 

 

12 minutes ago, Mercer said:

One of my favorite example of this tendency towards destroying a monopoly was Dow's (of Dow Chemical) fight against the Bromine Cartels of Germany

I’ll check this out, thank you. 
 

19 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Monopoly is naturally occurring outside of just new inventions, for example Nike has a monopoly on air Jordans, Metallica has a monopoly on Metallica tickets, etc.

Metallica tickets are not sold by Metallica themselves though. They are sold through third parties, where they are often then bought in bulk by fourth parties, who put a stranglehold on the supply, and gouge the prices to the consumer. Also adding nonsense convenience fees on top of the initial price, essentially saying, “You’re welcome i stole this ticket from you to sell to you at a higher price.” There is no available competitor. The fourth party is the unintended “monopoly.”


Now, Metallica and the venue could go the old school way and have the consumer buy directly from the source.. Hard copies, goods to consumer, hand to hand. Due to demand for Metallica this idea is now ridiculous. So in steps online sales, resulting in third party assistance because the venue owner and manager are not educated in the application of this technology. This technology makes it very hard to weed out bulk purchases and the reselling of their goods. In steps the fourth party. There is little to no interference or regulation of these transactions. So there is a stranglehold on supply, an unintended monopoly is created, and price gouging is birthed.
 

Neither Metallica, the venue, nor the third party have much of an interest in stepping in to prevent this, as their money is already made. Metallica, if anyone, has the most interest, if they want to keep supplying their goods to the consumer, yet their money is still made. The demand still exists, and the consumer gets fucked by lack of interference and regulation. 
 

It’s like if your plate of food was handed off to 2 different waiters and you had to tip each one, and then pay 3x the price of the dish on the menu. Instead of just the one waiter bringing food from chef to consumer and paying the already agreed upon menu price to the establishment. However in this situation there’s another restaurant that can cook that same meal, maybe even better. You can tell that 2nd waiter to get fucked, and go somewhere else. The regulation required here is by the restaurant owner, chef and waiter to tell the 2nd waiter to get fucked if the establishment, chef, and waiter want to make money. 
 

There’s only one Metallica, and only one place to get their ticket. An unregulated monopoly, intentional or not. 

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24 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I'll respond tomorrow @abrasivesaint, about to go watch the UFC main card and down some beers at a friends crib.

Cheers, about to do the same. Props for the conversation. 

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What I was pointing out is that Metallica has a monopoly on Metallica's music. They decide who gets a piece of it, and helps sell it but ultimately it's their choice. Michael Jordan has a Monopoly on Jordans, the MTA has a monopoly on NYC public transit, and the only thing guaranteeing this is the government. If you distributed copies of Metallicas music, Metallica couldn't stop you, the government would. Same thing goes for selling Air Jordans, or competing with the MTA in NYC, the government would shut you down.  A monopoly can't survive without the intentional, or unintentional consequences of government interference in commerce. Under my philosophy of Voluntaryism/Ancap there is no such thing as intellectual property, as long as the goods you're selling aren't counterfeit, and your customer knows they're buying a knock off you're good.

 

Many people are taught in government indoctrination camps, AKA public schools that the government is the only thing preventing monopolies from taking over, but the fact is the government is what creates monopolies, and is in fact a monopoly itself. Government is the only way a true monopoly can exist.

 

Here's a cool lecture on Monopoly by it's foremost expert if you're interested:

 

Monopoly and Competition Murray N Rothbard.mp3

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When you're WOKE with a hint of TDS

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/floirda-man-arrested-after-driving-van-through-gop-voter-registration-n1133261

 

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A Florida man was arrested Saturday and accused of driving his van through a tent where a local Republican group was registering voters, authorities and officials said. The man, Gregory William Loel Timm, 27, faces two counts of aggravated assault on a person 65 or older, one count of criminal mischief and one count of driving on a suspended license, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office said in a statement.

 

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12 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

AOC talks w/ her mouth full of food:

 

 

"aaaNNNNd"

 

The valley girl speak

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On 2/8/2020 at 2:38 PM, Mercer said:

 

@abrasivesaintYou can't just extract an additional $2.4T from the Stock Market over the next 10 years without destroying it. Those numbers look small, but when you're gambling your own money on razor thin margins, you're better off moving your money someplace else than paying additional penalties whether your investment wins or loses. Simply charging a 0.5% on every trade alone would be enough to destroy liquidity almost as soon as that policy was put into place. Most day traders, and the people facilitating liquidity don't even earn that much for themselves per trade.

 

Besides, this ignores the immorality of helping yourself to the value in someone else's 401k, or other good investment. Especially if it's being used to buy votes, and encourage students to make a poor investments, like a college degree that won't pay for itself. If you want an arts degree, gender studies, or any other non in demand degree you should have to pay for it yourself. Why should everyone else have to work harder, or go without to pay for someone else's poor investment? I don't like bailing out failed banks, failed businesses, and failed students because not only does it waste money, it also removes the incentive to not fail. We need to encourage students to earn a degree that actually endows them with skills that are in demand in the job market. Earning a degree in this electrical engineering, software engineering, and other STEM majors are already guaranteed to pay for itself. Why fuck over the people who study, or work hard, in favor of someone going to college as a hobby, or way to avoid being productive?

I also don't think Bernie and crew are walking up the right path with this, but he's not suggesting taxing individual investors. He's talking about Wall Street establishment. We all know those power players are playing a game of unfair competitive advantage based upon tech and access thAt allows them to skim fractions of a cent off tens of millions of trades hourly to gleam massive wealth out of essentially thin air. Whereas I do believe in trickle down economics and understand how it eventually will affect just about everyone, he's not suggesting going after the average joe investor that might be leveraging his life saving for a half point return.

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23 minutes ago, misteraven said:

I also don't think Bernie and crew are walking up the right path with this, but he's not suggesting taxing individual investors. He's talking about Wall Street establishment. We all know those power players are playing a game of unfair competitive advantage based upon tech and access thAt allows them to skim fractions of a cent off tens of millions of trades hourly to gleam massive wealth out of essentially thin air. Whereas I do believe in trickle down economics and understand how it eventually will affect just about everyone, he's not suggesting going after the average joe investor that might be leveraging his life saving for a half point return.

He is talking about taxing individual investors, and as a working class person who he claims to be supporting this will 100% effect my retirement account. There is no such thing as a mythical elite on wall street, everyone has to follow the rules laid out or face the consequences and the SEC def has a hard on for whales. There are some that are more successful than others, and some that have more weight to throw around in the market and effect it, but everyone pretty much has to follow the rules, which may not be perfect.

 

Bottom line, these taxes, even the .005 dividend tax which has been tried before and found to have destroyed market liquidity have already been tried, and scrapped by most of the countries that have tried implementing them. There is no magical way to raise enough money to buy votes that will not have a negative effect on the overall economy or Socialism wouldn't have failed every time it's been implemented. You can try to target successful people by demonizing them, implying they're hurting people simply by being rich/successful, but in the end this just means a short period of more consumption by the welfare recipients, followed by an even longer period of less investment, which in the end translate to less consumption by everyone overall. For all the shade thrown at them, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Buffet, etc. have done more individually to improve the lives of average Americans than any politician ever will, even if we allow them to help themselves to all their money. 

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I think Bill Gates and Bezos are geniuses.  Look at what they've built with just their visions.  Nobody handed that to them.  I don't know much about Buffet other than he has a lot of money.

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"No man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger, other than in self-defense and that rarely ever occurs.  And so we have to just change the culture.  Period.  And keep punching at it and punching at it and punching at it."

"I love this place, I mean look... what's not to like about Vermont in terms of the beauty of it.  What a neat town." -- While in New Hampshire

"Play the radio, make sure the television, wait excuse me, make sure you have the record player on at night."

"Poor kids are just as talented and just as bright as white kids."

"We choose science over fiction.  We choose truth over facts."

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4 hours ago, Dirty_habiT said:

"I love this place, I mean look... what's not to like about Vermont in terms of the beauty of it.  What a neat town." -- While in New Hampshire

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For the record, i’m not defending Biden. He can suck my ass.

 

Just pointing out Trump doesn’t have a long history of iron clad speeches,  interviews, or comments himself. 

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1 hour ago, abrasivesaint said:

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Bet you didn’t know it wasn’t in Kansas either lol 

 

On the other hand, pretty sure you know what state you’re actually in at all times 

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I did actually. I’ve been through, and have stayed in Kansas City for a few days. Stayed on the Kansas side, partied on the Missouri side. 

 

Not exactly sure what that 2nd part means. 

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8 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

Not exactly sure what that 2nd part means. 

One is an error in geography. The other is an old man not knowing what state he's currently in. See the difference? 

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Ah, yes, i get you now. @Kults
 

While he is still a dope for not knowing he was in Keene, NH, Vermont, coincidentally, is a stones throw away from Keene. 

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2 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

Ah, yes, i get you now. @Kults
 

While he is still a dope for not knowing he was in Keene, NH, Vermont, coincidentally, is a stones throw away from Keene. 

Same can be said about Kansas/Kansas City no?

 

None of this matters anyway. Its petty

 

 

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Exactly, thats why i pointed it out. KC-MO, and KC-KS are only (mostly) separated

by a river. 


Was just pointing out if we’re going to talk about slip ups, Trump has quite a history himself. Being physically in the geographical location or not. When you travel a lot, shit can get blurry, especially if you dont give a fuck, happens to musicians. 
 

In his defense, until i’d been to Kansas City i had no idea it spanned 2 states. If i did know i had long forgotten. 

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On 1/20/2020 at 9:30 PM, Dirty_habiT said:

 

Some ok points in here coming out of the black ex-cop. White privilege still exists no matter how you cut it. Choice to act a little too woke is in whoever lets it influence every lane in their life. And that shit doesn’t make a damn bit of difference to his bros in blue when they get to pullin over non whites in the almighty line of duty (or off duty.) So i guess my point is gtfoutta here woke white people. Peace n Love. Carry on. 😂

 

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Word. Btw. Working on my wokeness is a joke. I think people that even coin the term woke in the context it's commonly used are retards and it's not very some of me to say that. 

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https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/02/07/je-suis-mila/

 

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A 16-year-old has become the most hated girl in France after she criticised Islam on an Instagram livestream. Mila (who can only be identified by her first name) is currently cloistered in her house, living under police protection, and is unable to return to school.

During her livestream, a Muslim boy asked her out in the comments, but she turned him down because she is gay. He responded by accusing her of racism and calling her a ‘dirty lesbian’. In an angry follow-up video, streamed immediately after she was insulted, Mila responded by saying that she ‘hates religion’. ‘The Koran is hateful… Islam is shit… Your religion is shit… I’d stick a finger up your god’s arsehole’, said the teenager.

The video went viral and was reposted on multiple social-media platforms. Before long, Mila was receiving death and rape threats, and her identity and school were made public. Her family and the local authorities have been unable to find her a school that will guarantee her safety.

 

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/high-school-runners-sue-to-block-transgender-students-from-competing-in-connecticut

 

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High school runners sue to block transgender students from competing in Connecticut


The families of three high school cross-country runners are attempting to stop transgender athletes from participating in girls' sports in Connecticut by filing a federal lawsuit one day before the start of the state's indoor track championships.

Students Selina Soule, Chelsea Mitchell, and Alanna Smith say that allowing students with male anatomy to participate in sports against female-born athletes hinders their competitive opportunities. The lawsuit was filed against the Connecticut Association of Schools and the Connecticut Interscholastic Athletic Conference, which require that students be treated according to the gender with which they identify, in keeping with the state's anti-discrimination law and with local boards of education for Bloomfield, Cromwell, Glastonbury, Canton, and Danbury.

 

"Mentally and physically, we know the outcome before the race even starts," Smith told the Associated Press on Wednesday. "That biological unfairness doesn’t go away because of what someone believes about gender identity. All girls deserve the chance to compete on a level playing field." Smith is the daughter of former Major League pitcher Lee Smith.

 

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