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Want to talk about unleashed dogs?  On Oct 3rd of 2019, I was walking up my driveway after my gf's soccer game (at night time).  The neighbor was standing outside talking to her mom, I guess it was her mom in the driveway we share for our duplex.  Her mom was standing in the door of her car's driver side ready to get in and leave as they were chatting.  As I walk up my driveway, I hear commotion like they're trying to say something or I don't even know what.  By the time I look to where they are, their rotweiller (75lbs) had jumped out of their car and went straight for my wrist.  The dog did this like a missile, without making any sound, and the commotion I heard was the neighbor and the mom trying to stop the dog from getting out of the car.

 

  I could see my tendons and had to get right back in my car and go to the ER for 8 stitches totaling about $4k in bills (insurance covered most of it).

 

Dog bite's in Texas get paid out by renter's insurance between $100-300k in settlement.... no questions asked.  The dumbass neighbor didn't have renter's insurance (that they're required to have by our management company/landlord) and so I was left with no recourse but to get a lawyer and sue them for damages.  I've never sued anyone before, but now I have.  They've already been negligent in responding to the lawyer, I guess they just think it's going to all go away if they ignore it.  The lawyer is asking for a judgement to be placed on them for between 200k dollars and 1M dollars.

 

So, the moral of the story is, if you want to keep stupid dogs, keep them on a leash at all times and have renter's insurance so that when your dumbass dog bites someone then you're covered and don't have to get sued.  I'm just glad this happened to me and not to my girlfriend or my dog.  It would have killed my dog and I don't want my girlfriend hurt like this.  I got VERY lucky that it didn't wreck my tendons in my hand because the way I make money is by doing computer work.

 

I have permanent nerve damage in my right hand now and I have a scar that makes me look like a retard that tried to kill myself  (the wrong way I might add).

 

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Icing on the cake is I saved this dog from getting mauled by two pitbulls a few months prior when we were pulling into our neighborhood.  The neighbor girl was walking this rotweiller in the street on a leash, and these two pitbulls bolt out from between two houses and immediately go to biting her dog.  One of them had it by the ear, like behind the ear, trying to rip the rotweillers ear off.  I put my car in park because this is happening right in front of me.  Her rotweiller freaked out and bit her on the leg during this and she was bleeding, it all happened in a flash.  I put the pitbull that was still holding her dogs ear in a choke hold after kicking it didn't make it release.  That dog was not letting go, I wasn't strong enough to pry it's mouth open either.  That dog's jaw strength was stupid strong.  The only thing that got it to let go was me having it in a choke hold and then putting all of my weight on it, like laying on the dog.  Then it let go and acted like a good boy that just ran a marathon..... all dumb and panting, not mad at me or the rotweiller anymore.

 

This caused a lot of ruckus so there were neighbors outside watching this all go down, one lady is on the phone telling me that the police are on their way, and I said, ok lady.... well I'm not going to stay and talk to the police..... so I'm going to let this dog go now, and if you want to feel safe I suggest you get somewhere.  I'm surprised I didn't get bit or injured in any way.

 

I, also, don't like dogs off their leash and now everytime I see one in the green belt, or anywhere I'm just thinking to myself, I will stab the fuck out of your dog w/ my pocket knife if it tries any fly shit and I won't feel bad about it afterwards either.

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4 hours ago, Dirty_habiT said:

Want to talk about unleashed dogs?  On Oct 3rd of 2019, I was walking up my driveway after my gf's soccer game (at night time).  The neighbor was standing outside talking to her mom, I guess it was her mom in the driveway we share for our duplex.  Her mom was standing in the door of her car's driver side ready to get in and leave as they were chatting.  As I walk up my driveway, I hear commotion like they're trying to say something or I don't even know what.  By the time I look to where they are, their rotweiller (75lbs) had jumped out of their car and went straight for my wrist.  The dog did this like a missile, without making any sound, and the commotion I heard was the neighbor and the mom trying to stop the dog from getting out of the car.

 

  I could see my tendons and had to get right back in my car and go to the ER for 8 stitches totaling about $4k in bills (insurance covered most of it).

 

Dog bite's in Texas get paid out by renter's insurance between $100-300k in settlement.... no questions asked.  The dumbass neighbor didn't have renter's insurance (that they're required to have by our management company/landlord) and so I was left with no recourse but to get a lawyer and sue them for damages.  I've never sued anyone before, but now I have.  They've already been negligent in responding to the lawyer, I guess they just think it's going to all go away if they ignore it.  The lawyer is asking for a judgement to be placed on them for between 200k dollars and 1M dollars.

 

So, the moral of the story is, if you want to keep stupid dogs, keep them on a leash at all times and have renter's insurance so that when your dumbass dog bites someone then you're covered and don't have to get sued.  I'm just glad this happened to me and not to my girlfriend or my dog.  It would have killed my dog and I don't want my girlfriend hurt like this.  I got VERY lucky that it didn't wreck my tendons in my hand because the way I make money is by doing computer work.

 

I have permanent nerve damage in my right hand now and I have a scar that makes me look like a retard that tried to kill myself  (the wrong way I might add).

I would murk their dog on the sly if possible, maybe the grandma too. WTF is wrong with people.

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3 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

Icing on the cake is I saved this dog from getting mauled by two pitbulls a few months prior when we were pulling into our neighborhood.  The neighbor girl was walking this rotweiller in the street on a leash, and these two pitbulls bolt out from between two houses and immediately go to biting her dog.  One of them had it by the ear, like behind the ear, trying to rip the rotweillers ear off.  I put my car in park because this is happening right in front of me.  Her rotweiller freaked out and bit her on the leg during this and she was bleeding, it all happened in a flash.  I put the pitbull that was still holding her dogs ear in a choke hold after kicking it didn't make it release.  That dog was not letting go, I wasn't strong enough to pry it's mouth open either.  That dog's jaw strength was stupid strong.  The only thing that got it to let go was me having it in a choke hold and then putting all of my weight on it, like laying on the dog.  Then it let go and acted like a good boy that just ran a marathon..... all dumb and panting, not mad at me or the rotweiller anymore.

 

This caused a lot of ruckus so there were neighbors outside watching this all go down, one lady is on the phone telling me that the police are on their way, and I said, ok lady.... well I'm not going to stay and talk to the police..... so I'm going to let this dog go now, and if you want to feel safe I suggest you get somewhere.  I'm surprised I didn't get bit or injured in any way.

 

Ok that's the end of my thread jack unless anyone wants to see the pictures of the fresh bite on my wrist.  I, also, don't like dogs off their leash and now everytime I see one in the green belt, or anywhere I'm just thinking to myself, I will stab the fuck out of your dog w/ my pocket knife if it tries any fly shit and I won't feel bad about it afterwards either.

Not even close but I remember I was in the Denver skate park one time, dropped into the clover leaf bowl and next thing I know I've got a pitbull (with cropped ears/tail) on my ass chasing me through the bowl. I aired out of the deep end (9 feet deep) onto the flat and this dog that was watching me now from the bottom of the deep end just jumped out of the bottom of the bowl and started to come at me. By this point, I had my skateboard ready like I was Barry fucking Bonds at the peak of his roid abuse and smacked the shit out of the dog who snapped out of it, and let out a huge yelp.

 

At this point, some dumb fucking non-skateboarder comes rushing over "Dude, what did you do to my dog!" I said it was chasing me, he said "It was just playing" as he hugs his piece of shit dog that just attacked a human unprovoked. He apparently let some little kid he didn't even know that was skating there hold his dog (the little kid was there, almost in tears) but once it saw me skating it went after me. The dog owner was my size, but he had some either fake, or real looking gang tattoos, everyone in the park had gathered around and I noticed no police, so I swung my board at this pissed  off dog owners head, anded up catching him in the neck, and got the fuck out of there as fast as I could fearing either the cops, or this dickweed's homies would be looking for me.

 

If you have a dog that will attack people, fucking pay attention to it. There's no excuse why another person has to suffer an attack, permanent damage because your lazy ass got caught slipping. They end up putting the dog down but in reality, it's the negligent owners that should be put down half the time. Rottweilers are a particularly shit breed of dogs (not the females so much) because like a Chow Chow, they only imprint on one master and don't respect the rest of the family. They can't be trusted around anyone who isn't the one master because they will attack for any number of dog reasons, considering themselves the beta, or 2nd in command above all others except that one master. Great for guarding fenced in property, but horrible dogs for absolutely anything else.

 

I def consider myself a dog lover but seriously, fuck those dogs. To be more accurate, fuck the people trying to make those dogs anything that their not, like family pets. That's why that Rottweiler bit the girl, they're fucking stupid like that. My high school GF got bit by her own Rottweiler for no reason. Pitt Bulls are 100% better dogs IMO (if raised properly)  amazing family dogs to have. If I had a dog that bit my daughter, attacked my neighbor, well, I wouldn't have a dog any more one way or another.

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25 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

You mean like soaking a hotdog in antifreeze and throwing it over our backyard fence onto their side style murk?  @Mercer

No, I get myself worked up a bit too much and imagine a glorious bludgeoning with a blunt metal object, but I guess that would work. Honestly, keeping it 100% I'd just go for the lawsuit, it's not that dogs fault the owners were morons.

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20 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

You really thinking suing for 200k-1million for a 4k medical bill that was mostly covered is justified though? 

You don't seem to understand the gravity of the situation.  This isn't just about the cost of the medical bill I had to pay out of pocket ($600).  My hand is permanently damaged now by no fault of my own and there is no way to go back in time to where my hand worked as good as it did before. 

 

This could effect my ability to earn money in the future and I don't make tiddly winks for salary. 

 

I didn't choose this number, the lawyers did and if you understood more about what "having a judgement made on you" means, you'd know that this doesn't mean I'm asking to get that money as a settlement.  That is how much money will basically go on their credit report as owed to someone else.  This means that they will not be able to get a loan for just about anything and this will follow them around.  When they decide to "make it right" then we can discuss dropping the judgement at my discretion through the courts.  That's the whole point of having a lawyer.

 

Also, they can go fuck themselves for being negligent skid marks on society.  If they thought this was a joke or that it would just "not be a big deal" then they are definitely sorely mistaken.

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15 minutes ago, Mercer said:

I do, there's more to it than the medical bills. If they would have offered to pay like a good person would have 100% I'd settle, but since they're turds, I hope this wipes them out like cheap toilet paper.

It will.  They're young dumb asses that have no clue what they fucked with by being so negligent.  If they had renter's insurance like they were supposed to, I'd have a chunk of money to invest in something right now for the damages their negligence caused to my hand.... and it would have been no sweat of their little teeny tiny nuts either..... because their insurance would have paid for my medical bills and for the minimum damages owed for a dog bite case in Texas.

 

The moral of the story is, don't get bit by someone's dog who doesn't have insurance in Texas or you'll be left holding the bag or paying to hire a lawyer to handle it.  When I found out they didn't have insurance and I was going to be left paying for this out of my pocket, I didn't blink an eye at ponying up the money for a good lawyer.

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7 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

It will.  They're young dumb asses that have no clue what they fucked with by being so negligent.  If they had renter's insurance like they were supposed to, I'd have a chunk of money to invest in something right now for the damages their negligence caused to my hand.... and it would have been no sweat of their little teeny tiny nuts either..... because their insurance would have paid for my medical bills and for the minimum damages owed for a dog bite case in Texas.

 

The moral of the story is, don't get bit by someone's dog who doesn't have insurance in Texas or you'll be left holding the bag or paying to hire a lawyer to handle it.  When I found out they didn't have insurance and I was going to be left paying for this out of my pocket, I didn't blink an eye at ponying up the money for a good lawyer.

Doesn't this open the landlord up to liability for not confirming they had a policy?

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15 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Doesn't this open the landlord up to liability for not confirming they had a policy?

It could potentially, but in this case it doesn't.  Since the landlord is using a property management company, the onus falls on them.  The property management company's stance on this is that the lease agreement says that they had to have insurance, and since they didn't have insurance they just "broke the lease".  This makes the property management's insurance not liable.  The ONLY way the landlord's home owner's insurance would be liable is if the landlord was willing to accept the claim and say "yes we'll claim this on our insurance since we 'let it happen'".  Most any landlord is not going to do this.  It would basically mean the landlord would accept fault for something they had nothing to do with.

 

12 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

How do they “make it right” exactly? How does this permanent damage effect your day to day life? 
 

Not having the insurance is the only negligent part of this story. A dog escaping from a car happens. They’re squirrely little shits. It sounds like a straight up unfortunate accident. 

I don't live my life in a "shit happens" kind of style. 

I'll lay this out for you really clearly.  In TX there is a leash law.  They broke this law.  The law means that if your dog is outside of your house/fenced in yard (that the dog cannot escape from), then it HAS to be on a leash.  Period, the end, or you've broken the law.  I know some of you hate the legal system and like to throw around the term boot lickers and all that shit, but if you ever find yourself on the receiving end of some bullshit like this I think you'll be belting out a different song bird tune.

 

At some point in the future, maybe when I'm 70 years old, my hand is going to have issues because it was damaged by the dog that bit it when I was 37 years old.  You cannot put a price on the future, and that's why the amount of money for the judgement is set appropriately "high".  If you want to know how this affects my day to day life, if I bend my wrist in certain ways it feels like my hand is on fire or that I'm being shocked w/ a taser.  This sometimes happens when I sleep and it wakes me up in the middle of the night when I need to be on point at work.

 

I feel like this should be obvious but I'm having to explain it to a "smart adult".  That's not meant as a jab at you but get it together man.

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I don't know but that doesn't matter.  The law says you're supposed to be in control of your dog, and your dog in the car with the door open and not on a leash doesn't fall under that criteria no matter how hard you squint or tilt your head or concentrate on finding an out for the negligent neighbor.  The lawyer of 30+ years I hired seems to think there's a case here, and I tend to side with them since it's their profession that they went to school for.

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It just seems like that’s a hefty lawsuit for a 8 stitch dog bite. 
 

I get it, i’ve been at the shit end of that stick and it was far worse than this situation (I’m honestly not trying to be a cunt about that.) The not having insurance is total negligence, i won’t argue that at all. But it sounds like L the driver side door was open and the dog jumped the seat and bolted, that shit happens dude. I’ve had my dog slip from my grasp while standing in front of him with the door open trying to throw a leash on them. They’re slippery fucks when they want to be. 

 

Also that burning/stabbing sensation could be your damaged nerves coming back to life. I know from experience. They should have given you Gabapentin. If it’s bothering you that bad that it wakes you up i’d ask about it. It doesn’t completely stop it from happening but it does help. 

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20 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

It just seems like that’s a hefty lawsuit for a 8 stitch dog bite.

You're not paying credence to the fact that the dog attacked my money makers.  Let me put it in simpler terms that maybe EVERYONE can understand easily.  Just imagine if this dog had ripped off a strippers tits or a porn star's junk.  I make money by fixing computer problems, this requires using a keyboard.  If I cannot use a keyboard I'm fucked.  This isn't "just an 8 stitch wound".  It's much more than the current medical problem..... it's about the future.  It's about me carrying my knife in my hand every time I go between my front door and my truck because I don't trust the dumb ass neighbors to have their shit under control.  This is the "mental anguish" that people get paid out large sums of money for.

 

I'll reiterate that I this isn't about the money for me, this is about making sure that the people that did this understand what they did.  My injuries will far outlast the judgement placed against them.

 

Also don't forget that there was no "level of heftiness" I got to choose from.  I had no say so in the damage claim.  By the logic you're using you could wreck into an exotic car with your shit box and be like "what it's just a car, big deal if it has some paint scratches."  The person with the exotic doesn't think about their car the same way you do.  The person with them money maker hands doesn't view their hands the same way you view your hands or an "8 stitch injury".

 

I think we can probably agree to disagree here.  I'm typically a very easy going person, and like I said I've never sued or wanted to sue anyone.  I had SEVERAL people tell me to lawyer up after this happened.  People that I consider wiser than myself.  I listened, and I'm glad I did.

 

What you're suggesting is the equivalent of "rotweillers gonna rotweiller" which is absolutely top notch dumb as fuck, excuse my english.

 

15 minutes ago, SMdoubleXL said:

Damn.  

 

Also, I agree with the steps you are taking. 

Thank you.  I think anyone in my situation would be doing very likely the same thing.  Apologies can't really fix the damage.

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The dog should be put down. If it bites someone like that once it will more than likely happen again. 
 

I get the money maker aspect of it. I’m not arguing these people aren’t at fault or negligent. I get you didn’t chose the terms of the lawsuit. I get they didn’t have the insurance when they should have. It just seems like up to 1 million is a hefty price. 
 

You’re talking to a guy who was in a motorcycle accident that almost bled him to death after nearly amputating his leg because a man driving with no insurance and no license was too impatient to sit at a traffic light and hauled ass out of a parking lot trying to cross the street and didn’t see my unlucky ass on his motorcycle. Broken femur, broken tibia and fibula, broken ankle and foot bones, severed femoral artery and a shit ton of nerve, muscle and vascular damage. This happened a month after the Boston Marathon Bombing and the surgeons that were involved in my case dealt directly with the majority of those victims. They said i was worse than most and comparable to the worst injuries the victims sustained. The only difference was that i didnt have shrapnel in my leg. This was directly from a surgeons mouth, and was a weird and uneasy thing to hear, but the Marathon Bombing saved my leg if not my life, because they were fresh out of some wild surgeries and had an idea of how to deal with that level of trauma. I signed papers for my case and surgeries to be studied in medical schools. These fuckers found a way to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. 

 

I had 5 surgeries, 157 staples, uncounted stitches, 2 skin grafts, 6 weeks in a hospital and 6 weeks bed ridden at home and a year and a half of physical therapy. I couldn't walk for months and walked with a cane for over a year and a half. I still walk with a limp at times and at any point the vein they took from my right leg to replace my femoral artery could give out and i’d need to have my leg amputated or hope another surgery is an option and pans out..  
 

Know what happened to this guy for driving without a license and almost killing someone? Nothing. He had to pay a $400 fine and lost the license he didn't have in the first place. Thankfully i had insurance to protect me against uninsured drivers so i got some money, but in terms of my million dollar medical bill it was a pittance, and it got broken into thirds. Third to insurance, third to lawyers, third to me. (My family got a lawyer while i was unconscious in the ICU to deal with medical bill harassment and whatever else by the suggestions of numerous people.) The lawyers said you could put a lean on his house but the house is also in his sons name so when he dies the house goes to his son and it’s not his son’s legal issue. 
 

PS: that’s why i know about the nerve pain/Gabapentin, haha. The pain and sensation of your nerves reattaching and coming back to life is a mother fucker. 

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30 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

The dog should be put down. If it bites someone like that once it will more than likely happen again.

Even though the dog fucked my hand up, I don't know that I agree with this.  Yes, it's an aggressive dog.  Yes, the OWNER fucked up by not having control of it.  There is no "reaching the legal age of 18" for a dog other than the equivalent of when it bite's 2 times on record then it can have the death penalty.  Kid owners (read: parents) often make the excuse that "oh well the kid is just being a kid".  Well, I don't agree with that either.  The kid is being a little asshole because you didn't teach the kid restraint, the fact that there is a time and place for things, the fact that you cannot go around doing harm and bad things in the world.

 

The dog doesn't get to understand these things without solid training.  The lack of training is what allowed this dog to do what it did and it won't be "tried as an adult" until it bites another person.  There's no doubt in my mind that this dog will bite again given the chance.  It's what kind of dog it is, it's how it was raised.  The blame is 100% on the bad owners for not having control over their aggressive dog breed.

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34 minutes ago, abrasivesaint said:

I get they didn’t have the insurance when they should have. It just seems like up to 1 million is a hefty price.

What price would you put on the future use of your hands?  The use of your hands is kind of important.... to anyone, not just me.  By this logic you'd agree to let me chop your hands off at the wrist in exchange for $1M.  I don't think anyone would agree to that..... nobody.  Not even the poorest of people would think that's a good idea.

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@abrasivesaint- I just finished up reading your motorcycle injury post.... and fuck I'm sorry to hear that happened to you.  What happened to you is basically the reason I don't care about owning a street bike anymore.  There are too many dipshits out there operating 3k lb. weapons for me to be buzzing around on a crotch rocket/moped/harley/etc..... It's just not worth it.  Let me guess, the guy that caused the wreck had no injuries and walked away from it just fine.  I think a lawyer should have been able to sue the snot out of them for damages..... because, again, this is MUCH more than $1M worth of medical bills to fix you back up.  You have to live with the injuries for the rest of your life, you had to recover from what happened after you weren't bleeding anymore.  You had to use a cane to get around.  There's the fear that your leg could need amputation in the future, etc etc etc etc.  All of those things are not things you can put a price on.... they each cost a small fortune.  I don't mean just anyone's idea of a small fortune, I mean a literal multi million dollar small fortune.

 

It is for this reason that 200k-1M isn't really "that big of a number".  Like I said, they can choose to settle with me for some other amount of money (likely less than 200k) and we can drop the judgement on them.  The point of the judgement is to make sure they don't "just skate" on what they did.  I haven't really determined what amount of money would make me "ok" with what happened.

 

Maybe you can answer how much money would make you "ok" with what happened to you?  Or what amount of money would "fix" the issues that you have with your body?  My guess is that you aren't going to easily be able to determine how much that is, and if you can it's not going to be a couple hundred thousand dollars.

 

edit: also I have edited the title of this thread so that it can cover a broader range of stories.  This makes your motorcycle story fit under this thread nicely.

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12 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

It is for this reason that 200k-1M isn't really "that big of a number".

These days It's not too rare for people to earn 6 figures with zero college, and less than 5 years experience. By the way the Fed is printing, and dumping money these days I'd say by 10 years from now it won't be to ridiculous to start seeing 1m salaries. I remember when earning 30k was legit.

 

12 minutes ago, Dirty_habiT said:

Like I said, they can choose to settle with me for some other amount of money (likely less than 200k) and we can drop the judgement on them.  The point of the judgement is to make sure they don't "just skate" on what they did.  I haven't really determined what amount of money would make me "ok" with what happened.

This is how I am, I don't like taking advantage of people just because I can. If someone is making an effort to be responsible I'm willing to drop it almost completely. I mean it's not like I haven't made mistakes myself in the past. Iv'e never raised a vicious dog and had it attack someone but that alone isn't a sign of irresponsibility. Easily a small mistake on their part with a big consequence, bad luck. If these people aren't following up with you, asking how everything is going, offering to take you to an appointment, or whatever they can do to make things right then fuck em. I know for sure that's 100% what I would do, you wouldn't be driving yourself to the ER for sure. I'd drive you there and wait with you, then drive you home later if you let me.

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