KILZ FILLZ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1:15 mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 I bet that thing is bad ass. I'm much more interested in electric bikes (super moto/dirt bike specifically) than I am cars. Fastest gas bike I've ridden was a ZX10. Sounds like gearing isn't an issue for the Zero bike..... does it even have gears? I haven't looked up the spec on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Guys, I have located a picture of the new Tesla hybrid in the wild: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T4M* Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) So I did a quick scan of the thread, how is it that the Hyper Car Porche 918 Spyder is more efficient than a Toyota Prius? Now, I'm going to keep it short. I don't think we are quite there yet with having a 100% electric car that can provide a long mile range. This beast is dominating at 420mile range and it's super flexible. Combining gas, electricity, and wind, will always have the better outcome. Mshiet, add some diesel somewhere in there and guess what? Mars bitches, to there and back. Pwned. Edited January 25, 2020 by T4M* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Sunday night I was chilling w a bud who has a Nissan Leaf 40 mile range how the fuck does anyone in CA live with that? Everything is highway! 30 min here, 30 min there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+plus+ Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+plus+ Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 This one is stupid fast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 5:57 AM, T4M* said: So I did a quick scan of the thread, how is it that the Hyper Car Porche 918 Spyder is more efficient than a Toyota Prius? I can tell you how. A motor becomes more efficient the closer to "race car" it gets. The fastest cars in the world and the heaviest hauling diesels in the world are "efficient" when compared to the engines used in commuter vehicles. I don't think the Porsche's ICE is using the Atkinson cycle either, which is the Prius's main selling point.... a "more efficient" engine cycle. The point is, a Prius is the furthest thing from "race car" possible even with it's 20 ft/lb of torque on demand from the electric motor or whatever it is. All it takes to "be more efficient" than any hybrid is a set of big cams, high compression, excellent cylinder head design, excellent temperature management, etc. This is not the selling point of nearly any hybrid that is sold today.... their selling points are "be green" and "save money".... which is funny because efficiency does save money. I think they're only more efficient than older cars from the 90s. Newer direct injection engines with 2x spark plugs per cylinder have no problem using up the available fuel injected to completion. Also, when you combine that with things like "variable displacement" (nissan motor) and "variable valve timing" and "variable length intake runners".... you end up with a very efficient ICE..... and that's exactly what F1 uses. I'm not a huge fan of Audi, but check out some of the tech they use in their modern TDI race cars. Makes the "high tech" of electric cars seem like banging two rocks together to make sparks vs having a tesla coil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 1/28/2020 at 6:53 PM, KILZ FILLZ said: Sunday night I was chilling w a bud who has a Nissan Leaf 40 mile range how the fuck does anyone in CA live with that? Everything is highway! 30 min here, 30 min there. Don't forget that range is severely decreased when hills are involved. Also, when there's "no traffic" it's been proven in ICEs that traveling above a certain mph starts decreasing mpg by an exponential number. This means if your hipster electric/hybrid car isn't fuckin bad ass at getting through the wind then it gets shit range once the mph gets high enough. So like, you probably can't do 40 miles at 85mph.... and that's not a huge turnoff for most people that would buy a car like that because they drive like snacky cakes. I learned about this concept by going to the Texas Mile race and talking with the car owners there. Here's an example, and I'll just use Ford GT's. This is hypothetical in terms of the numbers used but the concept is true. 500hp Ford GT -> perfect launch -> perfect gear shifting -> @ 1 mile reaches -> 160mph 1000hp Ford GT -> perfect launch -> perfect gear shifting -> @ 1 mile reaches -> 172mph Why is it that it took double the HP to do 12mph more than the other car? The answer is because of drag coefficient. Even though the two cars are shaped exactly the same, the wind acts upon them exponentially more as speed goes up. This is why if your hybrid car or electric car is shaped like a brick (which teslas are not) then it's working directly against the idea of getting long range. This is also why you see all the "trailer skirts" and "aero mods" on 18 wheelers. Those guys are literally trying to squeeze 1% fuel efficiency out of an entire fleet of trucks because it's worth millions to do so over the life of the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 6:58 PM, +plus+ said: Now this is an electric car I would not mind owning/driving.... made by an established sports car company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4M* Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Dirty_habiT said: Newer direct injection engines with 2x spark plugs per cylinder have no problem using up the available fuel injected to completion. I can't remember what car I was looking at that explained this, in one of the top gear's episodes, thought that was pretty cool. Makes sense. I read up that a Turbo is more efficient than a super charger when comparing fuel ratios and such. Would of loved having a turbo on my car, but I saw someone put a V8 with working gauges and thought that was sick! Anywho, so now VW is stepping it's game up... I rrrreaaaalllllyyyy hate that electric noise. Imagine a tiny violin playing the highest note next to you eardrum, Fuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 @T4M*- I watched the I.D. R race on Pike's Peak last year I think it was..... maybe it was the year before.... I also got to talk to the VW team at the Fan Fest in downtown Colorado Springs and look all inside the car. They have the Pike's Peak race cars parked down there at the fan fest and the race teams are always happy to talk to anyone that has questions or comments. They'll usually let you sit in the cars and look at everything about how they're built. I highly recommend going to that race. I already have my camping permit for this coming June and will be making the trip up there for the 10th year in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4M* Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 All I saw was a Hot Rod Dirt Race, Truck show, and the Grind Life <--(looks koo, new experience) at the Pike Peaks (easy 9.5 hour drive) Unless you got some link that's more detailed on upcoming events, the one I found was vague . @Dirty_habiT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_habiT Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 5 hours ago, T4M* said: All I saw was a Hot Rod Dirt Race, Truck show, and the Grind Life <--(looks koo, new experience) at the Pike Peaks (easy 9.5 hour drive) Unless you got some link that's more detailed on upcoming events, the one I found was vague . @Dirty_habiT PPIHC.com is where you can buy tickets and camping permits. Lmk if you're going to buy camping permits and I'll share with you which cove we camp in. There are about six different spots to camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T4M* Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 21 hours ago, Dirty_habiT said: PPIHC.com is where you can buy tickets and camping permits. Lmk if you're going to buy camping permits and I'll share with you which cove we camp in. There are about six different spots to camp. Will do. I do want an excuse just to go to Colorado for the weekend. Last year I went to the Garden of the Gods and had a blast there. Just need to budget and plan it with people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 These are the EV that Amazon is backing. $700mil? Bezos trying to make a run at Tesla? These ones are $70k Rivian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dirty_habiT Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 That is so much fucking cooler than anything Elon has made IMO and I'm not even a "Ford guy". I'm excited to see what will happen w/ electrics and hybrids but I'm going to continue my pearl clutching w/ gasoline/diesel engines. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Dirty_habiT said: That is so much fucking cooler than anything Elon has made IMO and I'm not even a "Ford guy". I'm excited to see what will happen w/ electrics and hybrids but I'm going to continue my pearl clutching w/ gasoline/diesel engines. Other than not being a Ford guy, same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 GM and Honda agree to jointly produce EVs David Wagman | April 03, 2020 General Motors and Honda said they will jointly develop two electric vehicles for Honda, based on GM's global EV platform powered by its Ultium batteries. The exteriors and interiors of the new EVs will be designed by Honda, and the platform will be engineered to support Honda's driving character. Vehicles will be manufactured at GM plants in North America, according to a statement. Sales are expected to begin in the 2024 model year in Honda's U.S. and Canadian markets. GM and Honda have an ongoing relationship around electrification. This includes work on fuel cells and the Cruise Origin, an electric, self-driving and shared vehicle. Honda joined GM's battery module development efforts in 2018. The automaker said that discussions are underway with one additional party that could join the partnership. As part of the agreement, Honda will incorporate GM's OnStar safety and security services into the two EVs, integrating them with HondaLink. Additionally, Honda plans to make GM's hands-free advanced driver-assist technology available. Platform and batteries In early March, GM rolled out its modular EV platform and Ultium batteries. The automaker said it planned 19 different battery and drive unit configurations, including horizontal and vertical stacks, to power a range of vehicle types. General Motors and Honda said they will jointly develop two electric vehicles for Honda, based on GM's global EV platform powered by its Ultium batteries. Credit: GMThe EV battery cells will be produced at a $2.3 billion joint-venture plant that GM and LG Chem plan to build in Lordstown, Ohio. Site assessments and the permitting process for the plant have begun, and groundbreaking is expected this spring. The Ultium battery system is based on a newly developed chemistry for lithium-ion cells that is intended to reduce battery cost and improve performance. EVs typically make use of an NMC chemistry that is made up of nickel, manganese and cobalt coatings on the cathodes. The Ultium cells add aluminum to the chemistry, enabling the cobalt content to be reduced by 70%. Powered by CR4, the Engineering Community Discussion – 1 comment By posting a comment you confirm that you have read and accept our Posting Rules and Terms of Use. Add your comment Re: GM and Honda agree to jointly produce EVs #1 70AARCuda 2020-Apr-03 1:55 PM GM's "skate-board" of years ago finally arises. Reply Report! Add your comment See the entire discussion on CR4, the Engineering Community 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elena Delle Donne Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 my hot take is the bolt/spark really weren't bad cars at all, but they both weren't all that inspiring and kind of ahead of their time. gm has a chunk of this figured out! i think honda would help them fill in what's missing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Just started watching the Long Way Up series and I'm about three episodes in. Those Rivian trucks/SUVs looks pretty cool, and the Harley Davidson electric bikes they use look pretty cool as well, but the show definitely illustrates electric vehicles limitations. Though to be fair... they are in the souther tip of South America at the moment so I imagine it had to be a challenge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metronome Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I was having a convo with a motorcycle rider not too long ago and he got the chance to ride one of those electric Harleys. He said it scared the piss out of him because the EM doesn't give you the typical feedback that a rider is used to getting from a V-twin or something and it was easy to lose track of how fast you were going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndv Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) On 10/1/2020 at 8:16 PM, metronome said: I was having a convo with a motorcycle rider not too long ago and he got the chance to ride one of those electric Harleys. He said it scared the piss out of him because the EM doesn't give you the typical feedback that a rider is used to getting from a V-twin or something and it was easy to lose track of how fast you were going. I can see how that is. I do not own an electric bike and never been on one before, but I do have a hybrid SUV and when running on the electric motors it's a completely different feel. But I like the Ems way more than the combustion because with the electric I immediately notice how smooth everything is and the acceleration is way quicker die to direct drive. I think it's something to get used to Edited October 23, 2020 by ndv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Electric Hummer sold out in 10 mins didnt see a number of how many sales that is though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KILZ FILLZ Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Sony getting into the EV market in collaboration with Magna Steyr Magna Steyr engineers, develops and assembles automobiles for other companies on a contractual basis; therefore, Magna Steyr is not an automobile marque. In 2002, the company absorbed Daimler AG's Eurostar vehicle assembly facility. With an annual production capacity of approximately 200,000 vehicles as of 2018,[1] it is the largest contract manufacturer for automobiles worldwide.[2]The company has several manufacturing sites, with its main car production in Graz in Austria. Magna Steyr developed Mercedes-Benz's "4Matic" all-wheel drive (AWD) system, and was the sole manufacturer of all E-Class 4Matic models between 1996 and 2006.[3] The company also undertook substantial development on the BMW X3 and manufactured all original X3s (model code E83), and the Aston Martin Rapide. The company developed several cars on behalf of manufacturers such as the Audi TT, Fiat Bravo and Peugeot RCZ. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thedriven.io/2021/01/14/sony-releases-video-of-vision-s-electric-car-prototype-test-drive/amp/ But don’t get too excited about the possibility of buying a Sony car electric in the near future; the Vision-S is merely intended to provide a vehicle (literally) for the development of image sensing technology, and according to the company’s website, “to illustrate our future concepts in the area of mobility.” In addition to Magna Steyr, Bosch, Continental, AImotive (a start-up from Hungary), Elektrobit (belongs to Continental), Valeo, Vodafone and ZF are among Sony’s cooperation partners. https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/vision-s/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted January 21, 2021 Author Share Posted January 21, 2021 They all have that fugly front end, I already miss grills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KILZ FILLZ Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 https://www.electrive.com/2021/01/22/audi-announces-end-of-combustion-a4-a6-a8-models/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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