Mercer Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) Edited October 8, 2018 by Mercer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Always liked Banksy (he, them, whatever...), never understood the hate he copped in here. This was another great move but I'd like to know how the printer was activated remotely after all this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted October 8, 2018 Author Share Posted October 8, 2018 Due to the timing, my theory is very close range with a discrete radio transmitter. Someone had to be in that room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brink Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Millionaire shreds million dollar art piece, only to have it increase in value now because its shredded love the fine art world 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 What a joke. So obviously set up and fake. Fuck Banksy and fuck the hype surrounding that guy. His fans would call his farts strokes of genius. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Hua Guofang said: Always liked Banksy (he, them, whatever...), never understood the hate he copped in here. This was another great move but I'd like to know how the printer was activated remotely after all this time. Maybe writers hate on him because it isn’t graff but it’s hailed as such. The guy comes out of the woodwork every few years to put up stencils with a team of people. Never understood what got people so hyped for this guys ‘work’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Agree, my opinion is that the entire thing was staged and likely in cooperation with Sothebys. Like they're actually going to allow some painting with a weird frame and likely weird weight into a vault with all the other expensive shit going up at auction. Fake news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STYLEISKING Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 def. a stunt, artworks done in 2006, didn't the auction house inspect it as an original, but somehow missed the shredder? also do batteries last that long? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Yeah, that was my question as well. How does a remote switch get triggered after sitting idle for so many tears. Either way, setup or not - did it interest/entertain me for a few minutes? Yes! Box ticked. I don’t need to go any deeper on it than that, really. It is what it is and now back to internet porn and car crash videos ? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 20 hours ago, misteraven said: Agree, my opinion is that the entire thing was staged and likely in cooperation with Sothebys. Like they're actually going to allow some painting with a weird frame and likely weird weight into a vault with all the other expensive shit going up at auction. Fake news. I agree with this, the blades in the video showed them laying flat, there's no way those blades could have shredded the paper if they were placed like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Eh. The 'news' report I saw stated that Sothebys has said they were not in on this, if you choose to believe. Definitely a stunt. Somewhat amusing. Personally have been a fan since before it was cool to be. Appreciate his sense of humor, remaining anonymous, feel he's gotten some decent work into some tight spots, hard for me to hate on those qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, One Man Banned said: Personally have been a fan since before it was cool to be. ..... Cool. How were they not in on it? You don't think paintings sold for that much money are authenticated and every minute detail inspected..? Including the frame? Personally I don't see how this benefits Sothebys other than making them look incompetent. This created buzz for him, nothing more. He isn't anonymous and hasn't been for years. Just google Banksy identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Like yourself and others speculating, I am unaware of their authentication methods. If an artist delivered them something inside a custom built frame I don't know that they're going to disassemble or otherwise take apart the frame to look behind it as I imagine that could affect the value of the piece. I think they're primarily concerned with is the piece an authentic creation by said artist. If they were delivered a painting described as by Van Gogh and made from dog shit on burlap bag I doubt they're testing to see if shit and burlap are present, they just want to know it's a Van Gogh, not a Chinese knock off. Like many people I considered if Sothebys was in on this but then I also considered that they're a reputable dealer moving authentic, valuable pieces. While some people would chalk this sale up to Banksy being Banksy, I imagine that Sothebys has a rep to protect as well and their average buyer wants assurance they receive their purchase in one piece. Likewise I imagine there could be ramifications to shitting on a million dollar sale unless there was some prior clause involved in the sale of the work. I agree with Brink that the stunt likely increased the value of the piece, but that was not 100% before the stunt and still isn't what the buyer paid for. I haven't followed this too closely but I haven't seen anything mentioned about the buyer/sale/$/value. Anyhow, no fucks to give out here but it is fun to see people get upset with a dude who has stated in so many words that if the best his work does is give a laugh to some guy taking a piss by a wall then he's content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Not sure who’s upset? I personally find the whole thing corny, like most things Banksy. If people dig it, more power to ‘em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 How quick someone was to copy in response to the supreme court confirmation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Yep, we had one with the latest IPCC report over here as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted October 9, 2018 Author Share Posted October 9, 2018 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misteraven Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 In case anyone is still doubting whether it was all staged... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brink Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I saw some other dumbass shredded their banksy piece devalued in price immediately lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 hours ago, misteraven said: In case anyone is still doubting whether it was all staged... Not sure how that confirms anything either way here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hua Guofang said: Not sure how that confirms anything either way here. As people have mentioned, there's no way the battery would have last 5+ years or that Sotheby's wouldn't have inspected it before taking it on. Its 100% staged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hua Guofang Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Yeah, I've mentioned the battery issue myself up the page but I don't think any auctioneers like Sotherby's are in the business of pulling art out of their frames and such before they auction them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Hua Guofang said: Yeah, I've mentioned the battery issue myself up the page but I don't think any auctioneers like Sotherby's are in the business of pulling art out of their frames and such before they auction them. Are you kidding?! Of course they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 At the appropriate time, IFAR will ask to examine the work in person. If necessary, we will recommend laboratory analysis (e.g. X-radiography, infrared reflectography, pigment or media testing, fiber analysis, etc.), often at additional cost. https://www.ifar.org/authentication.php If nothing else the scan would have picked it up. There is absolutely no way they just overlooked a fuckin shredder and an engine in the frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, auf said: I'm a little baffled by the fact his identity is still concealed, and simultaneously makes millions off illegal "street art". His work is political and sometimes I've wondered if he's hired by the government to express his work. His work is clever, you cannot deny that, but why do I get the feeling there's somebody behind a curtain pulling the strings. Maybe it's just me. Its not if you know where to look. Hes been outed for years now. I personally find him corny but hey to each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, auf said: I'm not a fan either m8, but I did enjoy his t.v. show growing up. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/banksy-robert-del-naja-massive-attack-art-who-is-he-identity-real-name-graffiti-music-similarities-a7805741.html Nope thats not him. Im not about to dry snitch the guy just cause Im not a fan but do some digging if youre that curious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted February 25, 2019 Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 minute ago, auf said: i feel like the only answer would be on the deep web, surface web is flooded with conspiracy garbage, and I'm not savvy enough to dodge mal ware and hackers. I could care less tbh who he is. You're better off. Hes a bit of knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share Posted March 3, 2019 His IRL, and public facing alter ego is of no consequence to fans, or non fans alike. The only time I think I'd pull the "I'm Banksy" card myself is bagging groupies. Other than that linking the two identities is pretty much useless outside of law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kults Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 People are curious, its natural given how much exposure and press he's gotten. I wouldn't read too deeply into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Stop snitching? Seeing discussion of his identitty in graf forums is kind of.... hmm, I don't know. Not sure that ironic or hypcritical fits. Dude gets known as an unknown doing illegal shit. Fans of his illegal shit want to expose who he is publicly, which does somewhat nullify his gig if not worse. Adding to it all, I believe Banksy has an above average understanding of the power of anonymity as he's mentioned it in his earlier writing. Not accusing anyone here, but some of these graf groupies are willing to destroy their hero in order to get closer to him. Fitting to steal a quote from him and say it's not that it's over their heads, they just ducked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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