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KILZ FILLZ

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Use it with a light touch to keep track of your friends and maybe a few interest groups (be sparing with this). Don't post, don't share, don't like, don't poke, don't pass on and don't use it as a news source and the average person won't experience any overly negative impacts.

 

If you do want to post, share, like, etc. make sure you do all those things with a balance of stuff that can identify your personality type with things that are very un-you. Going off the grid altogether is super-difficult and the successful effort will likely dominate your existance. So you can't hide. It's about what you share and how easily you can be read and influenced. The more you share of your true self the more vulnerable you are to being influenced.

The plan is to keep in touch with old friends who have moved along with their lives. But I don't share and or post too much on it because I for the most part have very different ideas then the mainstream public. Now I know from past experiences that news on social media is trash but thanks for restating that. I'm not all that concerned about "the man" or anyone else to identify me because I don't share anything that I wouldn't mind them seeing.

 

Just FYI the official science is that Facebook makes you sad.

In general I agree and that's why I have stopped using it in the past. But for now I want to have it just to see if it makes me feel differently in anyway. I had been on the fence for long enough to setting up a new account and this thread was just the tipping point to my everlasting internal debate.

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Fucking strange when people are streaming live FB or insta videos and just tell you that you're live and how many people are watching.

 

I'm getting raped almost daily.

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I 100% agree that the dopamine hit from getting a like or comment on social media is short lived and highly addictive. If you look at it in terms of a form of drug addiction it's no wonder so many people are unable to peel away. I took the "i don't care what other people are doing" attitude some years ago and my life has been simpler and happier since. I still keep in touch with the people that matter to me the most.

 

More power to whoever can bring themselves to quit. I'll tell you it feels good to look around a restaurant that I didn't bring my phone into (leave it in the car) and see all the people not paying attention to the person they're at the place with.... or they're scrolling through pictures and holding their phone up to the other person's face like "look at this, wait wait, look at this one..... oooh you gotta see this one..." Of course there's a "to each their own" element at play here too but I'm glad I'm not wrapped up in something so unproductive like that anymore and I'm always happy to hear other people saying that they don't use social media. That's, actually, one of the most attractive things I can hear a girl say these days is that she doesn't have a face book. That's like an instant angry blue veined diamond cutter right there.

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But there's the problem with these things- you might be able to minimize risk, but you can't eliminate it. Once you put out any type of info you can't take that back, and all that info gets used, mainly in ways you would not want it to be used. Part of the danger in doing this is that a lot of people believe hey, what can they take from me or use against me if I limit my info? Trouble is, that info is used for algorithms that comes up with shit about human behavior that we would never think of or even consider, and that is then used to influence you. There are marketers out there who have written about some of the industry tricks, and they have written that with full awareness of all of the tricks of the trade, you get bombarded with so much that even they find themselves getting taken in by their own techniques at least some of the time!

 

IDK, was commenting to a friend the other day that with no social media accounts I feel like I have missed a lot and at the same time, nothing at all.

 

This is the truth... Its mind blowing how quickly they can connect dots based off the most random and asinine bit of info.

 

Here is a sample that barely scratches the surface:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/dialect-quiz-map.html

 

I took this quiz, which is a very simple questionnaire about what words you use to describe random, every day type words. They 100% exactly nailed not only what state I grew up in, but got it down to the actual county. Keep in mind this is some dumb quiz on the NY Times site used for shits and giggles and imagine what sort of tools and algorithms employed by surveillance and government agencies. Honestly it blew my mind how specific they pin pointed where I'm from using harmless questions that never raised a flag for me (and I'm fairly weary and aware when it comes to this type of thing). Now imagine how easy it is to build a bot that crawls the internet looking for comments, let alone all the detail found on Social Media and think about how effortlessly they can build a profile of you with the type of shit they use, when the NY Times can pinpoint where you're from using a simple questionnaire of harmless and not at all intrusive questions.

 

And yeah, I keep talking about giving up on social as well. Though I do feel it'll further distance me from people (already geographically isolated for the most part) and also how I can consider doing this, when I feel its also a part of my professional life / job.

 

No putting that genie back in the bottle, but I do believe we'd be better off as a society if it never existed.

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Oh yeah, I have all the social platforms myself and for 12oz, though I havent used FB in years and hardly ever used Twitter at all. Used to be the fucking man on Friendster though with my unreasonably deep buddy list and then got bummed when everyone flocked to MySpace (crazy how most people on social arent even old enough to remember MySpace). Main platform has been Instagram.

 

Ironically I used to hate when people posted what they ate. Seemed so retarded and self centered. Now with all the political rants and stupid memes, I wish people would go back to posting what they ate.

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This is the truth... Its mind blowing how quickly they can connect dots based off the most random and asinine bit of info.

 

Here is a sample that barely scratches the surface:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/dialect-quiz-map.html

 

I took this quiz, which is a very simple questionnaire about what words you use to describe random, every day type words. They 100% exactly nailed not only what state I grew up in, but got it down to the actual county. Keep in mind this is some dumb quiz on the NY Times site used for shits and giggles and imagine what sort of tools and algorithms employed by surveillance and government agencies. Honestly it blew my mind how specific they pin pointed where I'm from using harmless questions that never raised a flag for me (and I'm fairly weary and aware when it comes to this type of thing). Now imagine how easy it is to build a bot that crawls the internet looking for comments, let alone all the detail found on Social Media and think about how effortlessly they can build a profile of you with the type of shit they use, when the NY Times can pinpoint where you're from using a simple questionnaire of harmless and not at all intrusive questions.

 

And yeah, I keep talking about giving up on social as well. Though I do feel it'll further distance me from people (already geographically isolated for the most part) and also how I can consider doing this, when I feel its also a part of my professional life / job.

 

No putting that genie back in the bottle, but I do believe we'd be better off as a society if it never existed.

 

I posted in another thread about Cambridge Analytica. They are the market leaders at the moment in terms of collecting disparate data and bringing it together to create psychological profile - they boast that they have approximately 5000 data points for each American. They worked for Cruz until he lost in the primaries and then switched to Trump. Have a read, they are the leading edge of this game right now, aside from what is done inside NSA, GCHQ, etc.

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Only social media worth using is instagram less fuckwits commenting on shit they have no idea about.

I'm firmly of the belief that social media is just a bullshit echo chamber.

I have Facebook but rarely ever use it.

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Absolutely it does.

 

Your IP address is all over it as well.

 

Not sure if you're responding to me or not, but in regards to that online quiz... the area is quoted me as being from was a place I moved from in the late 1990s when the internet was fairly young and most people had no idea what an IP was, let alone were collecting and leveraging IPs.

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This is the truth... Its mind blowing how quickly they can connect dots based off the most random and asinine bit of info.

 

Here is a sample that barely scratches the surface:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/dialect-quiz-map.html

 

I took this quiz, which is a very simple questionnaire about what words you use to describe random, every day type words. They 100% exactly nailed not only what state I grew up in, but got it down to the actual county. Keep in mind this is some dumb quiz on the NY Times site used for shits and giggles and imagine what sort of tools and algorithms employed by surveillance and government agencies. Honestly it blew my mind how specific they pin pointed where I'm from using harmless questions that never raised a flag for me (and I'm fairly weary and aware when it comes to this type of thing). Now imagine how easy it is to build a bot that crawls the internet looking for comments, let alone all the detail found on Social Media and think about how effortlessly they can build a profile of you with the type of shit they use, when the NY Times can pinpoint where you're from using a simple questionnaire of harmless and not at all intrusive questions.

 

And yeah, I keep talking about giving up on social as well. Though I do feel it'll further distance me from people (already geographically isolated for the most part) and also how I can consider doing this, when I feel its also a part of my professional life / job.

 

No putting that genie back in the bottle, but I do believe we'd be better off as a society if it never existed.

 

 

Barely scratches because you can tell a lot by people's language and how they use it, and most of that is readily observable info if you pay attention to it (remember way back when 12oz learned what a 'jawn' was?). Even if you can't tell by listening you can look a lot of that up. What is happening with people's info goes far, far deeper because the more points of data collected on you the more mathematical equations that can be done with that info to figure shit out about individual and group behaviors, taking us far off what most of us can or could figure out on our own. People are also being sculpted using their emotions as well as behaviors based off info obtained.

 

Of course, this info can be used for good, such as medical research that helps determine how different people are affected by diseases or their treatment. But unfortunately far more of your data goes toward getting you to do things that are not to your advantage or that you ordinarily might not do. Take an overly simplified example- the supermarket figures out that a lot of men who buy shaving cream also happen to buy cranberry juice, so the supermarket puts the cranberry juice on the end of the shaving cream aisle not to make it more convenient for men, but because it increases the probability of selling those 2 items together instead of selling either one separately. And regardless of the reason that men happen to buy those 2 products together, simple fact is they will, and simple fact is that some men will go to that aisle looking just for shaving cream, and some will leave with both products even though that was not their intention. BTW, if you're reading this thinking that's bullshit, I ask you to look at how many people you know with that little plastic supermarket tag on their key rings, the one they scan at every purchase for electronic coupons- what do you think that's for? They say it saves paper coupons, but then why doesn't the store simply put the item on sale? Why do you have to sign up to receive coupons that in all prior history were just there, available to all? Data collection. I mean how else is the store going to know that men who buy product A are also buying totally unrelated product B? It's not enough for stores to say we sell a shit ton of tomato sauce, stock more. They want to know who bought that sauce so they can market more to them, and they want to know what they bought with the sauce to market that to them too.

 

There are a lot of psychological properties at play here... too much to discuss at once. If you ever walked through the whole Ikea store you got played. If you ever went to a store like Ikea or anywhere else with the set intention to get something and leave, and you leave with more than what you set out for, you probably got played. Your emotional reactions are also used to sell you shit, your behavioral reactions are used against you if you don't understand them... that's part of what that Facebook story above is about. People have become blindly trained to their phones like Pavlov training a dog. They've taken man's need for social connection and exploited it, made people believe they need to be a part of their artificially created social world, very, very sad. When people talk about wanting to quit social media I ask that you examine what is it providing you that e-mail doesn't? With social media it seems like people want to collect their shit in one spot, show it off, compare. But, they also are attracted to likes, comments, views..., receiving a message that someone liked/commented/viewed you... basic psychology, like getting someone to play the slot machine again and again, or getting a pigeon to peck a bar.

 

I hope people will continue to discuss and explore these concepts, important shit. You can also get a good beginning understanding off any intro to social psychology type book.

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This is the truth... Its mind blowing how quickly they can connect dots based off the most random and asinine bit of info.

 

Here is a sample that barely scratches the surface:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/dialect-quiz-map.html

 

I tried this and it guessed that I was from Wichita, KS, Springfield, or Lexington. Way off :P. I answered truthfully on all of them, I guess they can't tell I'm a redneck who's lived in Texas my whole life.

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Did a sober December and made it until my goal of new years eve. Did not increase level of physical activity or change diet. Only variable was not drinking

Lost two notches on the belt by the end of the month.

 

 

 

Trying no porn in January. These personal goals really break up the monotony lol

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Trying no porn in January. These personal goals really break up the monotony lol

 

So very tempting to post a porn reply just to be a wiseass, must... use... restraint.

Good for you though, I appreciate self-discipline.

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