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This is taking place in Tennessee or Kentucky if I'm not mistaken some southern state. I totally forgot about it. I was all about shit like this years ago. Now I don't give a fuck what you Do or DO NOT believe in. I would be on Nye's side if anything but the whole argument still amounts to nothing at the end of the day.

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I'm about 40 minutes in and I'm just annoyed, not particularly amusing. A bit disappointed.

 

Not sure why Nye gave this guy credence enough to spend his time with this nonsense.

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I know Nye is pretty passionate about his field, but when dudes get to this level (I'm assuming this being A list in the science community but like brad pitt A list, more pop-science, as compared to daniel day lewis less poppy like a carl sagan) he may just want some publicity.

No such thing as bad press.

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I have zero problems with people having their faith in something.

 

I have many problems with people forcing their faith on others.

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I was entertained. Tried to get it to stream from the phone to the TV, fail.

I think it's important debates like this happen now. I just read 4 states already teach the intelligent design theory in public schools along side evolution.

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im going to watch it. I have always liked Nye...it should be interesting to see the defiance of the self righteous christian types.

 

Nye will probably be pissing in the wind for the good it will do the christian types.

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i don;t think i can stand to listen to the creationist, even if nye destroys him intellectually.

 

i'm not one to suffer fools

 

Bertha, their quest to decimate science education makes me wanna barf

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It wasn't a proper debate, more a bunch of disconnected illogical tangents on one side, and the other side trying to be an adult while dealing with a child.

 

After watching it I was kind of pissed that Nye gave this guy the time of day, but if his being there changed the mind or life of a single brainwashed kid that was drug there by his parents sees the greatness of science, or some christian kid sees it online and realizes that the people at the forefront of his ideology are morons and tries out atheism, it was worth it.

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It wasn't a proper debate, more a bunch of disconnected illogical tangents on one side, and the other side trying to be an adult while dealing with a child.

 

After watching it I was kind of pissed that Nye gave this guy the time of day, but if his being there changed the mind or life of a single brainwashed kid that was drug there by his parents sees the greatness of science, or some christian kid sees it online and realizes that the people at the forefront of his ideology are morons and tries out atheism, it was worth it.

 

Agreeing with you !00% here, it was almost painful to watch Ham's arguments. It astonishes me how creationalists so passionately defend their views with the facts contradicting them laid so plainly in front of them.

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I was also surprised to see Nye get on the pulpit with this dude. You don't even need 30 seconds, just seeing the words "debates creationist" is enough to be able to accurately predict the entire two hour segment. But being from the Dirty South, I can say that any form of intellectual injection is well needed, and I think Nye had to take off his natural, logical hat, and become a patient but firm teacher, sort of like a special ed instructor.

 

The important thing is that Nye took a step down from where he normally operates - a sterile, intelligent and logical no-feelings-hurt environment, and waded into the swampy bog of Christian rhetoric and feel-good catch-alls. After all, these are people that vote for their state representatives, who vote for the bills that change our country. Hopefully Nye and Tyson will be able to reach that backward ass portion of the population. I know he did for me when I was raised hyper-religious, and coming home to watch his show was like stumbling upon a hot spring in the middle of a Siberian tundra.

 

When Ham, for the second time said "well, there is one book that answers that, Bill..." I was dying for the retort, "Well, Ken, there's actually many fictional books that answer that question, not just one - unfortunately none of them are based on facts" or something along that line.

 

The ending was definitely the most telling of both. When Ham was left squirming and cornered by the "literal bible" question, and said in effect, "You should listen to my interpretation of what's right and wrong in the bible, even if I use the bible as a solid bedrock for some logic, and as a sort of grey mushy "poetic" area for others." I mean, he pretty much crucified himself on that one, and Bill just kind of pointed it out in that kind of fatherly way. That killed me.

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