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NJ Gov. Christie

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I don't know much about him, but I hear a lot of talk about him running for President in 2016. Apparently he has given his blessing on a bill to allow access to medical marijuana to terminally ill kids. Sounds like a sensible fellow from what I gathered, just wondering if anyone else here knows more about him, perhaps some folks that live in New Jersey....?

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The weed is only for sick kids and it is eaten, not smoked.

 

He cut education, cut medical and has the 6th highest unemployment in the country. All this while giving tax cuts to the wealthy.

 

You could google him like the rest of us, so I wonder why didn't you?

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He's a fat fuck obama hater.

 

Rather than doing any real dieting and excersise he's getting lap band surgery.

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I liked him a few years ago when he was getting press for yelling at people. At that time he was coming off as a straight shooter telling idiots what they needed to hear and I think that fired up a lot of people and helped create the buzz he has. Nowadays though...he just comes off as a bullshitter who frankly is better at telling people off than actually doing his job.

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i've been enjoying the recent pile of shit he caused/stepped into with the GW bridge mess..

 

you know he's lying about not knowing about the lane closures bc he said he heard about them after his morning work out. lulz he doesnt work out he's a fattie

 

also since when does a bully get to tell people he's not a bully?

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he won't get nominated for a presidential run - the GOP base can't stand him and the bridge shit will continue to come back like the living dead or benghazi.

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Republicans refuse to incorporate anyone that is not white, male, and old.

 

They would never elect someone from Jersey.

 

Without gerrymandering, they would be irrelevant.

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I'm not big on domestic pol in the US but I reckon you're probably right there. If the Reps don't realise the shit they're in and start acting pragmatically they won't allow this chap to win the primaries.

 

Has he signed that Grover Norquist pledge not to raise taxes? I'd google if I wasn't just making conversation.

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Not sure about the pledge. Republicans are a funny bunch. Their hypocrisy is amazing. It blows my mind sometimes that they refuse to acknowledge it too. I think they are going to be totally different in the next 10-20 years. Right now they are going thru changes that they might not make it out of. You have the holy rollers, the tea baggers, the old school traditionalists, and the ron paul knob slobbers all competing to take control of the party. At the same time, their major funders are getting older and dying. Also, there is no signs that a majority of America is buying into any of what they are selling. Gerrymandering is saving that party right now.

 

I don't see Christie fitting in any of that. He is either going to get really big in that party, or he is going away into no one paying any attention to him. This bridge thing is a result of inter party fighting. I think democrats just need to sit back and let them all fracture their own party. Split the vote.

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Republicans are a funny bunch. Their hypocrisy is amazing. It blows my mind sometimes that they refuse to acknowledge it too. I think they are going to be totally different in the next 10-20 years. Right now they are going thru changes that they might not make it out of. You have the holy rollers, the tea baggers, the old school traditionalists, and the ron paul knob slobbers all competing to take control of the party. At the same time, their major funders are getting older and dying. Also, there is no signs that a majority of America is buying into any of what they are selling. Gerrymandering is saving that party right now.

 

This is what happens when you develop your ideas about one side based on what the other side says about them. Try this one out:

 

Democrats are a funny bunch. Their hypocrisy is amazing. It blows my mind sometimes that they refuse to acknowledge it too. I think they are going to be totally different in the next 10-20 years. Right now they are going through changes that they might not make it out of. You have the communist/socialist sympathizers, the welfare state advocates, the environmentalists, the rights advocates, and the occupy wall streeters competing to take control of the party. At the same time, their major sources of funding are becoming increasingly dependent on social issues. Also, there are no signs that a majority of America is buying any of what they are selling. Gerrymandering is saving that party right now.

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Republicans = lack of any self awareness.

 

Cil = sitting back enjoying republican civil war.

 

Your response is typical of republican comments. Never address anything, always divert to the person saying something. Their answer is always "your wrong, because your doing the same thing". Regardless of any truth in it.

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@ Sexcauldron - Well, to be fair, it's not just the 'other side' who are saying these types of things about the Reps over the last few years. It's a pretty common refrain from many Reps and ex-Reps as well. They are pretty far from a cohesive and tight knit party at the moment and they are at a time where they need to consider reforming some of their positions largely because the demographic base of the electorate has shifted over the last decade or so.

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We'll said Mercer. I think Christie is going to be like a few other republican candidates in the recent past, Jon Huntsman is one, that have a semi-good chance to win, but won't get past the primary.

 

This race to see how far right you can go, is what is going to split their party. It would be especially fun to watch, if it wasn't fucking up the country in the process. Extremist of any type are not good for inclusiveness.

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Yeah, ideological fundamentalism is bad for politics, regardless of persuasion. Nations are extremely complex entities that are impacted by forces outside of which any state can control or predict (global economy, other nation states, the weather and the environment, technology, etc.). That means that any state is forced to react to events, at least to some degree. G.W. Bush did not expect to be dealing with 9/11 when he entered the presidency (he was actually elected on a more isolationist policy than internationalist) and Obama did not expect the GFC, but they were realities that had to be addressed. To enter in to govt with an unswerving ideological agenda, which is decided before even knowing what will be confronted is maniacal.

 

Ideology should guide decisions but pragmatism and long-term national interest should constrain the choices made.

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Your response is typical of republican comments. Never address anything, always divert to the person saying something. Their answer is always "your wrong, because your doing the same thing". Regardless of any truth in it.

 

I could hear the woosh of my post going over your head from here. I'm not interested in arguing the points you posted themselves, rather merely pointing out that they are spoon-fed generalizations that you regurgitate from a lofty position of condescension so designed to imply that those who disagree with you are somehow less intelligent than yourself. That's a shitty thing to do, and 99% of political discourse in this country takes place in that manner. It fosters and expands the dichotomous relationship between public political commentary and the actual political/legal arguments behind what is commentated. That said, I agree w/ most of your post, but the way in which you chose to say it coupled w/ the way in which you've chosen to express your other political opinions on this site allows me to make an educated guess as to how you take in information and suspect that you're pretty firmly planted in the category of people I alluded to.

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Your not interested in arguing points with me, because you have no argument that you can use that isn't nonsense from the Koch brothers.

 

If you think I am implying you are less intelligent then me, that is a self assessment you have made. Not mine. I just think your wrong, not less intelligent.

 

I am also not firmly planted in anything. Give me something to show your view points that make sense and I will fully consider them. A lot of times it comes down to a difference on what the final outcome is. For example, the end state for the left is helping people, while the right is for enabling businesses to succeed in order to help people. If the end state is not able to be agreed upon, then we will never see things the same.

 

As for your "whoosh" comment, go fuck yourself you condescending asshole. Republican assholes like you are self important and the reason why things are so fucked up. Keep dodging the points and attack the messenger.

 

We can continue like this if you want or you can actually address what are valid points instead if diverting the subject. Up to you.

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it's interesting to me that many of the same left-leaning individuals that devoutly fight against "fat shaming" call christie "fat"

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Jokes are one thing, but I never understood seriously making fun of peoples physical appearances. It is rare that I comment in really life about someone's looks.

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