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TRAYVON vs. ZIMMERMAN


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zimmerman should have never followed him after the 411 guy told him not to, and if he was going to follow him, he shouldnt have ever been close enough to get his ass whoop.

 

i think trayvon was whooping his ass once confronted, and then thats when Zimmerman shot him.

 

could have been avoided. should have been guilty.

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You know if they had video of that shit they would be playing it in reverse talking about "Not content murdering sweet, gentle, honor student Trayvon Martin, George "worse than Hitler" Zimmerman forces family of four back in to crashed SUV"

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If you pay attention... Take the census for instance -- in the top category asks if you are White, Black, Asian, Native American/Indigenous, Mixed, Other, etc.

 

Then there's a second category, that shows "Hispanic" as an option. After the person selects one from the top category, then they check whether or not they are of Hispanic origin.

 

 

 

Native Americans as in Navajo, Cherokee, or Apache? They don't check "Hispanic."

 

 

 

Who said Spanish-speaking is a "race"?

 

 

 

I have never heard of a Native American, and by Native American we are speaking of an indigenous person from the Continental US -- ever call themselves "Hispanic." To be a Hispanic you must either be from or a descendant of a Spanish-speaking country. Most Native Americans grow up speaking English and in some cases will learn their Native American tribal language for cultural reasons.

 

Native American as in the people referred to as the Hispanic race are indigenous to the American continents. And half of the US used to be Mexico, so yeah, Mexicans are just as Native to the US as Navaho or Apache or any other "native Americans" from the US.

So then if your argument is that "Hispanic" is not a race (even though it's one of the selections to check when asked about your race on any application) and that it just means that you speak Spanish, then what race are Mexicans?

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His·pan·ic ***(h-spnk)

adj.

1. Of or relating to Spain or Spanish-speaking Latin America.

2. Of or relating to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.

n.

1. A Spanish-speaking person.

2. A U.S. citizen or resident of Latin-American or Spanish descent.

 

[Latin Hispnicus, from Hispnia, Spain.]

 

Hispanics come in all skin tones, I have met dudes from Argentina that had blond hair and blue eyes but said Mexicans butchered Spanish. Hispanic is an ethnic grouping, just like Basque, Kurdish, or Sicilian. Even with in racial groups, groups of people have always found ways to exclude outsiders, for whatever reason. It's called "in group bias" and it's a very real thing to the point that it is in born. But to throw your hands up and say we are born with it so it's cool falls in to the grounds of a naturalistic fallacy. The challenge is to rise above.

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Pretty much, christo.

I guess most people are riled up because this has been trumped up to be the pinnacle demonstrable element of our racist justice system. Its not. Maybe if zimmerman had white skin and not just a last name, and maybe if he'd said something other than "he's black" we might have some racist stuff here.

 

Overplayed headlines and reality-tv court fed to a moronic mass... We have plenty to be really, really pissed about. But somehow a dead kid in FL (which no one gives a fuck about that state anyhow) has trumped the fact that the NSA is spying on civilians. This fucking kid has got the populace more riled up that the Patriot Act, NDAA, the plethora of police-on-civ murders, etc...

 

In conclusion, fuck Americans; They don't actually give a shit about their liberty.

 

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Native American as in the people referred to as the Hispanic race are indigenous to the American continents. And half of the US used to be Mexico, so yeah, Mexicans are just as Native to the US as Navaho or Apache or any other "native Americans" from the US.

So then if your argument is that "Hispanic" is not a race (even though it's one of the selections to check when asked about your race on any application) and that it just means that you speak Spanish, then what race are Mexicans?

 

 

I already gave an example of what races Mexico is made up of...

 

About 60% of Mexico are Mestizo (mix of usually White & Indigenous Blood), about 30% are full or nearly-fully indigenous, about 7% are pure European White, and 1% of Mexico is Black.

 

There is no such thing as having "Hispanic" blood. A scientist checking one's DNA cannot find anything that correlates to being "Hispanic", since it's not a race, but rather an ethnic grouping or a social construct created by society to identify a group of people based on them sharing a common language (Spanish). Scientists can however check DNA to see how much White, Indigenous American, Black, or Asian one has, as those are actual races.

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The brown ones, not the grandchildren of white people who moved to Mexico and had kids there.

 

The "brown" Mexicans are Indigenous. Most are of Mexica descent (AKA "Aztecs"), but there were many other Indigenous tribes/empires that existed in present-day Mexico.

 

That being said, many "brown" Mexicans have White blood; some more than others. Usually the lighter they are, the more "White" blood they have in them.

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One bone I will pick is that when he is riffing about people complaining about imprisonment on drug charges, he doesn't take into account that a huge portion of these cases are simple possession, not instances of possession with intent to sell.

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