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Avoid Art School.

 

Graphic design?! Unless you are ungodly talented, like not from this planet excellent... forget about it.

 

Art is a hobby, do it on the side.

 

I have grad and undergrad degrees in studio art & visual communications. I use neither.

 

I wanted to cartoon, and smoke week, and do rape letterz everyday for life.

Not that I am a failure.

I started in illustration, but graphic design paid more so I switched up.

Web design (Basic HTML & Photoshop) paid more than Graphic design, so I switched up.

Optimizing websites for search paid more than designing them, so I switched up.

Advanced coding pays extremely well, but that shit bores me, so I avoided it.

Optimizing campaigns for paid search pays very well, but that shit bores me too, so I avoided it.

 

Marketing strategy pays more than SEO, so I switched up.

 

All of the above can be done from the comfort of home, or in an office; I've done both but prefer an office. The office isn't bad because agencies are fun to work at. Suit up one day, jeans most others. Nerf guns & liquid lunches like champions. Paid travel.

 

There is no real degree to do what I do, it was just becoming a jack of all trades that built my expertise. A good resume (or list of solid clients) and knowing the right people is all you need, I've never really interviewed for a job that I didn't already have in the bag. I've gotten lucky to fall ass backwards into the perfect job for me.

Networking is better than school erryday - SO BE NICE TO PEOPLE!

 

Geek out and code websites, you'll make more money an hour than most do in a day.

I contract coding work out at $60-200/hr depending on the skill level. So like I said, learn LAMP 'cause I don't want to.

 

YOU CAN TEACH YOURSELF HOW DO IT for the price of a couple books (that you can buy used.)

I feel like Damon in that MIT movie, I wasted a ton on college, when everything I do today I taught myself from reading a few dozen books.

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Art school is great if you're young and rich...talent is optional, they'll teach you how to fake it. As far as getting anything worthwhile or meaningful out of it....unless you like art history and debt, not really.

 

Out of all my friends with art degrees about four of them are successful at anything remotely connected to what they went to art school to break into.

 

Since I didn't go to college I don't have any advice as far as school besides "be picky about where you go and what your focus will be when you get there."

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art degree? *fart noise*

 

 

be a Cable guy like me :) sales, not install. sales make more money and i like it better.

 

im a lazy fuck. when I was selling I worked about 4 hours a day and pulled a decent living. being a cable guy has its perks too, if I was single.

 

i made a game of it. if I didn't get them to buy cable, I at least tried to get whatever I could off them (drinks/snacks/smokes). my truck has never seen so many empty water bottles.

 

 

 

I was promoted to hiring manager/recruiter at my job. now I make money off the efforts of others and browse reddit most of my day.

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I had sex in the library AT art school so I win (I totally forgot about till I was reminded recently... Because: GOSSIP. My parents let me leave private girls school to finish secondary school at a co-ed senior school that focused on the arts. Silly parents!)

 

Career wise I was super lucky to get in when and where I did. Working in a creative industry but doing development type stuff (numbers based, mainly)..

After a good career stint have returned to art school (no library sex because: yuck)... My degree, along with years of industry experience on the numbers side of the game should, if I work really fucking hard at it, get me a fucking great job. Still undecided if I can be bothered running my own business, but will have all skills to do so.

Yay me.

Art school sucks. Go earn some money.

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College is essentially a joke unless you go to grad school or beyond that. A bachelors counts for essentially nothing at this point in time since most people have them. You might be able to get a job at trader joes with that unless you picked the right field. And odds are that field is gonna crash in a few years anyway. Forget art school and shit like that look for something that people are always going to need.

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Shai anyone BMXs you come across... HOLLA...!!!

 

The only bikes we seem to come across are garbage. I know bikes, every now and then I'll see something that isn't total crap but more often than not it's spoken for.

 

The Bay is a really tough bike market...everything worth having has been acquired by bike nerds who won't sell it for less than 300% of what it's actually worth. I stopped trying to buy stuff some time ago, I'm tired of haggling with new jacks at swaps who says shit like "I've been doing this for three years, I KNOW what I'm talking about." Cool...then you can keep your overpriced museum of junk, Beavis.

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College is essentially a joke unless you go to grad school or beyond that. A bachelors counts for essentially nothing at this point in time since most people have them. You might be able to get a job at trader joes with that unless you picked the right field. And odds are that field is gonna crash in a few years anyway. Forget art school and shit like that look for something that people are always going to need.

 

Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck.

 

Er, uh, what I meant to say is any job worth a fart requires a BA/BS as the minimum requirement, so sadly you do need a degree. But whether it is from Northwestern, or University of Mayland University College (real place) is inconsequential.

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You can get plenty of crap jobs with a degree but unless you have a masters or beyond or picked the right field your job is essentially shit. Of course I didn't go to college to find a job so while I may be 30K+ in debt right now at least I have a practical knowledge of subjects that highly interest me.

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Cable guy huh? might have to see what that's all about. Would love to do mail delivery. I'll definitely looking into dog-walking. Most agencies that set you up with clients want you to have fancy phones to check in all the time, I've still got outdated technology. I've worked grooming before, and that sucks. Not the place you want to be at for 8 hours a day. But shit, anything that let's me be outside I'm into. Teaching? Nope. been there, done that. school system is depressing, and kids today are way too much to handle. I'm trying to kick the cigarette habit, and would not be able to handle the headaches kids bring.

Maybe it's worth it to try and get a cdl license. At least for a box-truck, no 18 wheelers or anything like that.

 

I'm also like symbols in the fact that I like to do different things, and picking something for a lifetime is scary. When I get bored, I need a change. Definitely not going back to school though, i'm in enough debt. If I can find a tradesman to apprentice under, I'd be down for that, but yeah no school.

 

It's all so heavy to think about.

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I've learned that looks and charm can get you pretty far in general in job world. and attitude

 

 

I'm currently working a gr8 manufacturing job(easy) and saving money to make 'rare' jackets/sweaters and theoretically sell them to people on the side.

 

 

Even if I don't make any money, it's what I'll be doing with my lief and I'll be digging all the doubt and frustration because I have a great god damned attitude

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Er, uh, what I meant to say is any job worth a fart requires a BA/BS as the minimum requirement, so sadly you do need a degree. But whether it is from Northwestern, or University of Mayland University College (real place) is inconsequential.

 

going to have to firmly disagree with that sir.

a few years of experience working at ISP's and a couple not so hard to achieve cisco certifications can go a long way towards 6 figures. no overtime. no suits at work. no bs. no college.

 

 

Cable guy huh? might have to see what that's all about.

 

you should. just do it for a few months, learn about networks, educate yourself. dont stagnate. you'd be suprised how little it takes to work your way from field operations into engineering. the paper isnt very far from the front door. just sayin!

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going to have to firmly disagree with that sir.

a few years of experience working at ISP's and a couple not so hard to achieve cisco certifications can go a long way towards 6 figures. no overtime. no suits at work. no bs. no college.

 

Way to point out the one job in a million to disagree with me. I already stated code geeks make great cash, but that Cisco shit is overrun run by dots. Sonjay is always willing to do it for fraction of the price of Josh.

 

I was speaking in general, go on LinkedIn or job engines and see how many 40k+ jobs (don't) say HS diploma or equivalent.

 

I also am an advocate of trade schools & certifications. Doing something niche in high demand is money in the bank. For example, my buddy is a head hunter for the plastic industry, any job having to do with plastics is insane.

 

Go to college and get a business degree? Welcome to Starbucks.

 

And fuck kids with history, philosophy, psych, English, & other worthless bullshit degrees.

Take a few years to decide what you wanna do before you go 100k in debt for a piece of paper that will put you in the middle of the pack.

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Join the army.

 

ding ding ding

 

its actually pretty tough to get into the US military right now, between downsizing/force shaping and the recession, the ranks are pretty full across the board. the days of waivers for anything are gone.

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Only way I would enter the armed forces is OCS, and as far as I know that isn't really popping right now for the reasons listed above.

 

I do have a family member that got in about 4 years ago, has hit the road to spinning the military into a career, and loves it. However, their outstanding loans were quite high (from a real prestigious foreign policy/politics/shit like that type school) and the military didn't foot the bill for shit.

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