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we as a nation have this idea that "now is not the time for politics, we should mourn, show some decency." but the fact is if we don't embrace tragedy in the moment it will fade away and be swept under the rug. NOW is exactly the time to discuss politics, because in 2 weeks nobody will give a shit.

 

outside of CO how many of you follow anything about the aurora shooting?

 

we've been conditioned to forget tragedy

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and of course, since it was some white asshole 24 year old, no one will call this terrorism

 

 

This

 

Seriously though what drives people to such extremes that they feel this is a viable option for their life? If you want to kill yourself cause your life sucks do it, if you hate someone and want to kill them that bad well that sucks but shit do it, you want to shoot little kids what the fuck is wrong with you, every kid at the school is gonna be fucked for life due to this shit.

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terrorism has a very specific definition, it has nothing to do with race.

aurora wasn't terrorism either.

 

unless it comes out that dude had some kind of manifesto, this is not an attack with intent to affect politics, this is likely a nut case...

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i disagree.

Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, often violent, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no legally binding, criminal law definition

Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians).

Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war.

 

but i don't want to argue about this. so if you think i'm wrong fine., who cares.

 

in other news.

A law enforcement official identified the shooter as Adam Lanza and said that a brother, Ryan Lanza, had been questioned.

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there are gonna be a lot of devastated families sitting around the xmas tree this year.

i cannot imagine going through that. i bet lots of those parents are all excited about giving their kids the gifts and shit

 

now they are dead.

insane.

and of course, since it was some white asshole 24 year old, no one will call this terrorism

 

Are you seriously making this about race right now? Some asian fuck just did the same thing in China on the same fucking day. It wont be called terrorism because its fucking not, not because his skins white. He was part of no group, had no political cause and there was no political means to be gained from this. This was yet another sick fucking loon who should of been aborted.

 

Just under half of the [mass shootings in the US] involved school or workplace shootings (11 and 19, respectively)...

Forty three of the killers were white males...

The average age of the killers was 35...

Of the 139 guns possessed by the killers, more than three quarters were obtained legally

 

and what will change?

zero.

 

 

but don't try to get matches anywhere near your shoes on a plane, cuz then the whole country will have to change.

 

I agree changes need to be made, the questiuon is what? Unless you have a total gun ban similiar to the UK gun control laws will never prevent shit like this, and as with the chinese bastard, when the guns are gone sickos will use knives and bombs.

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This better not be over his parents deleting his WOW account or lack of sexy time.

 

seriously, ladies need to start making those legs part the red sea more.

 

I'm firm in the belief that if more people were pre-occupied with taking trips to Smangledesh, less shit like this would happen. no time to develop complex resentment or ideals...my dicks wet!

 

in all seriousness, what a way to literally devestate an entire community.

/HumanityFail

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put aside the gun control/mental illness/terrorism/political arguments for a day or two and simply appreciate how fleeting life is. RIP victims.

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first the mall, less then a mile away from me. now this shit. in the same fucking week. somewhere. someplace. there are a fuck ton of lonely mixed up white kids with guns and they are PISSED the fuck off that they didn't pull todays massacre off yet. it's about to be one sick fucked up competition of psychopaths and no one can do shit about it.

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alright, then pointlessly sit on an internet graffiti forum and get into a pissing contest about who knows more about what when its quite obvious this is not just a cut and dry issue.

 

everyone loses here, the victims, their families, the family of the accused, humanity as a whole.

 

shit has happened here in canada too (albeit not as frequently) and we have gun control up the ass.

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first the mall, less then a mile away from me. now this shit. in the same fucking week. somewhere. someplace. there are a fuck ton of lonely mixed up white kids with guns and they are PISSED the fuck off that they didn't pull todays massacre off yet. it's about to be one sick fucked up competition of psychopaths and no one can do shit about it.

 

Well atleast you don't have to worry about a black shooter in a school or workplace setting.

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Real screwed up, both Connecticut and China.

 

 

To throw my hat in the ring - 1. it's not terrorism for the exact reasons Eastwood and Fist said. I have no idea why people want to call everything terrorism, as if that makes it more important. He's a nutjob killer, calling him a terrorist won't change anything other than obfuscating matters and making the definition worthless.

 

Second, just an observation, some one said the China deal shows that gun control is useless as they will just use knives and shit instead. However the difference is, US=20+ dead, China=20+ injured. I'm not for or against control, but the argument that it makes no difference doesn't add up in that example.

 

Regardless of the academic shit, it's all horrible.

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"and of course, since it was some white asshole 24 year old, no one will call this terrorism"

 

 

Doesn't matter what they deam it, it's still what it is and it's still a tragedy.

And there are plenty of "Terrorist" white males convicted on our own turf, Timothy Mcveigh, i believe Jared Loughner too, for instance.

 

 

"the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. " By definition he hasn't fallin under that category yet, but if the investigation finds anything implying a political agenda was being carried out.. then that'll change. You kill a bunch of children with no real motive... you are simply just crazy.

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Horrible news, and fucking heartbreaking for the parents/families who were about to celebrate Christmas with their children.

 

Set aside the stupid terrorism complaints and just recognize that what happened was horrible, and shouldn't have occurred anywhere for any reason.

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i left for work this morning reading that there was only 1 dead and it was the shooter, came home and it was up to 28 shit like this usually doesnt fuck with me , i mean its always fucked up when some fucking idiot blasts on people, but this is fucking with me, as it would anybody, idk, humans are the most disgusting , shit is just fucked up. fuck.. all i have to say..

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can someone post a pic of obamas fake tear after discussing this horrible tragedy with the nation.. this might just bring in more gun control laws, Right to bear arms, might aswell cross that out..

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