morton Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Need to step up your cheffin and get out of the market for factory prepared food if you are trying to embrace healthy diet choices. Cali, do you keep a quart of whole milk in the fridge, you know for the ladies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 :lol: it was a joke, fuck that band. also packaged apples? weird.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 seriously? i drank 2% till about the age of 16/17...then went to 1% till about 3 years ago...been drinking skim milk for the past 3 years....so, i should go back to 1%? Yeah man i drank skim for awhile until about 4 months ago and then went back to 2%. Waaaay better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrChupacabra Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Whole milk is for coffee and porn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullshitTantrum Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 . . . but in this day and age I refuse to put over processed, over preserved, infected meat that cut with unhealthy fillers and pumped full of antibiotics into my body. the original point i was trying to make is that if your not a conscientious eater then any diet will fail. have you heard of such things as "free range" "organic farm" meat? ITS FUCKING DELICIOUS. i just got excited thinking about how great the meats i get to cook and grill actually are. last week i had some organic bison meat mixed with free range lean ground beef (both local) and then to top it off i put applewood smoked bacon in that shit and devoured it. and i felt fucking great. i kind of felt like the bread in that deal was unnecessary. like i could have easily just made hot dogs wrapped in bacon and used the burgers as the buns itself. and meat sauce as the only topping. fuuuuuck. ipod90, its about to get nice out and the farmers markets should be going hard. check that shit out for your produce..... well you can pretty much get anything at those. and reasonably cheap. i try to get to my local farmers market a bit later to pick up good deals on certain foods but if you want really really fresh shit ya gotta go early. and i heard the drummer of fall out boy played in vegan reich for a bit. so bump this. then you'll look like this...if you over do the soy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Cali, do you keep a quart of whole milk in the fridge, you know for the ladies? lol...actually no...for them i keep around 2-liter dr. pepper and wild cherry pepsi bottles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Yeah man i drank skim for awhile until about 4 months ago and then went back to 2%. Waaaay better i don't know if i could go back to 2%..i can do 1% though....the original reason i switched from 2% to 1% was cause of a report i saw on the news talking about how much fat you're actually intaking from one cup of milk....they showed that same cup with only the fat in it and it was almost 1/4 of the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltrailer77 Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Adult mammals really have no business drinking fluid milk, it is by design a super rich/high fat food to promote growth in early life. I can honestly count on one hand the number of glasses of milk I have had in the past year. My kids smash two gallons a week but the oldest is only 8. Cooking yes, cheese sure, but fluid milk, yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 but fluid milk (which i like..especially with cereal or cake) actually has vitamins and calcium...so i dont mind drinking it rather than eating a whole lot of cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!@#$% Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 i developed a milk allergy as an adult fucking rare and it's weird. no more milk for me. good luck ipod90 it's cool people can try some shit and be open-minded about it i'm pretty over the rampant criticism and hatred that people generally give as feedback to basically anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I can't stand anything but full cream milk. Fresh from the fuckin' dairy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 fresh from the cows utters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Scientist Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 the original point i was trying to make is that if your not a conscientious eater then any diet will fail. have you heard of such things as "free range" "organic farm" meat? ITS FUCKING DELICIOUS. Yeah, I've heard of it. . . but still would rather avoid it if I can. Lots of things are billed at "free range" and just barely meet the standards to be qualified as such. Although, I do plan on getting some chickens so that I can eat the eggs and not feel bad about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullshitTantrum Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i developed a milk allergy as an adult fucking rare and it's weird. no more milk for me. good luck ipod90 it's cool people can try some shit and be open-minded about it i'm pretty over the rampant criticism and hatred that people generally give as feedback to basically anything i became lactose intolerant too but i cut dairy out of my diet and couldn't poop at all. so i took lactate pills and that was way worse. now i eat some to regulate the digestion. better than having to take a fiber substitute drink. an dr. science, ya gotta do your home work. find out where your food is actually coming from. thats the point of being conscientious. go local, way easier to trust and usually real fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vharkano Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Yeah, I've heard of it. . . but still would rather avoid it if I can. Lots of things are billed at "free range" and just barely meet the standards to be qualified as such. Although, I do plan on getting some chickens so that I can eat the eggs and not feel bad about it. Didnt you make a post saying how it was weird for humans to be drinking the milk of another animal ? But you're alright with eating chicken periods ? I love both but just found that strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acer910 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 :lol: you get fucking sick and tired of eggs when you get chickens and you arent selling their eggs. seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Fuck outta here you blasphemous faggots. Skim milk gallon crusher while I curl unopened skim milk gallons for muscle development. The ultimate thirst quencher when your Ma refused to buy FUN COOL FRUIT drinks or cereal that didn't come in a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you can microwave bacon Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 While eating meat makes you feel like a man? It's amazing how men are so afraid of anything that's good for them. . . I'd rather look like a bitch eating Soy then have blood in my stool from colon cancer and an enlarged heart. i'd rather eat awesome food (non bitch shit), then die early because growing old and watching everyone around you die is overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Incognito Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i eat whatever the fuck i want and still don't gain weight or shit blood. just kinda happens a lot of the food i wanna eat is healthy anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I eat whatever I want and a decent amount of it is not health conscious. Do push ups and chin ups. Eat what you want. Do more push ups and chin ups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyWay Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 ^^I think System Failures onto something here, but you forgot squats, gotta target that lower body too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y.FRESHJIVE Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Go here, it will help.. http://veganmenu.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you can microwave bacon Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 the whole purpose of your appendix is to remove indigestable bones etc from your digestive system. back ffrom when cavemen had it rough. nowadays we don't use the appendix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Look I love meat, but the caveman argument is a bit odd to me, you do realise none of them lived much past 25 years old? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 yeah, but we live past 25 because of advances in medicine and a better understanding of our own biology, which is something the cavemen didnt have. im sure cavemen didnt know what an infection was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I agree, which is just another reason the argument is a bit of a stretch to justify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup forgot his password Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Veganism and Vegetarianism is a fucking epidemic in the bay area. Every roommate I've had in the last 5 years has been vegetarian. I did it for a while just because I was coaching swimming and I needed to eat a lot of carbs that would give me energy quickly, so I was eating 3 or four salads (nh) in that lunch time. But every time I hear a roommate talk about how its SPIRITUALLY better to be a vegetarian I eat a bacon-wrapped sausage right in front of them and leave all the fat splatters on the stovetop.... not like they have the energy to keep the apartment clean anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 i think people are using that argument because of evolution...our body requires a lot of protein every day.... its about 0.8 grams per every kilogram of body weight (if you have a sedentary lifestyle)....so a 220 pound man would need about 80 grams of protein a day because (220pounds /2.2 pounds per kilogram = 100 kilograms and times 0.8 would give you 80)...but this would be for someone with not a whole lot of body fat%. a very active person, would need upwards of 1-1.3 grams of protein per kilogram body weight...so the 220 pound man would need over 100 grams of protein. i think what people are trying to say is that this huge protein requirement was probably a necessity that we adapted to having from our evoltionary ancestors nutrition, which was probably composed of a high protein diet, because they ate animals they hunted to survive (along with eating nuts and berries and other things too). but because now that food is so plentiful (all you have to do is go into a supermarket and buy it), and we are more aware of our nutrition, it is possible to live a normal healthy lifestyle as a vegan as long as you get your proteins and complimentary proteins in (to get the right amount of essential amino acids) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprotester Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I'm not arguing the fact that people can live healthy lives now without meat, though. All I said was that the argument of 'cavemen did it, so it's sweet' is a bit redundant considering most of them only lived to 25. There isn't a doctor I've come across that hasn't told me eating red meat every day is bad for me. Trust me, I went to a fair few trying to find one that would! 100g of protein would be a fair few lentils... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALIgula Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 youd have to eat about 400 grams of lentils to get 100 grams of proteins, but like i said...you need complimentary proteins because of limiting amino acids...the best protein is actually from an egg...because of the high levels of all types of amino acids, so the limiting amino acid is high in value. i agree with you on the eating a whole lot of red meat is bad for you...and doctors dont recommend it..and most doctors will point out moderation in everything..even red wine for cardiovascular benefits. but some red meat is actually good for you, because not only is it a good source of protein, but also has good nutritional value to it...including iron, which is good for people with anemia....especially women who dont want to have to take iron pills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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