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Drug-sniffing dogs in traffic stops often wrong

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-01-06/news/ct-met-canine-officers-20110105_1_drug-sniffing-dogs-alex-rothacker-drug-dog

 

 

"Drug-sniffing dogs can give police probable cause to root through cars by the roadside, but state data show the dogs have been wrong more often than they have been right about whether vehicles contain drugs or paraphernalia."

 

 

I've always wondered about that... The cop could just train the dog to give the signal of drugs on command, thereby giving him the authority to search the car.

 

Assholes.

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"Drug sniffing dogs" always makes me think of dogs in shitty leather jackets railing coke in club bathrooms

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Either that or one of those tabloid news spreads where the headline would be DRUG SNIFFING DOGS and the rest of it would be a bunch mugshots of haggard looking dogs

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I've always wondered about that... The cop could just train the dog to give the signal of drugs on command, thereby giving him the authority to search the car.

 

Assholes.

 

yeah, if you've ever see them tapping on the car when running the dog around this might be them trying to get the dog to signal. but not only that, a cop can actually send subconscious clues to the dog that will make it signal falsely. so even when the cop is good intentioned enough the dog can still misinterpret the handlers "vibes" (idk what else to call them) and false signal anyways. the fact that there is even a CHANCE that this can happen should be grounds for these drug sniffing dogs to stop being used. i mean we don't use lie detectors in court because of the slim possibility for them to be wrong, so why should we leave the possible violation of someones 4th amendment rights into the hands (or paws :p) of a dog?

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yeah, if you've ever see them tapping on the car when running the dog around this might be them trying to get the dog to signal. but not only that, a cop can actually send subconscious clues to the dog that will make it signal falsely. so even when the cop is good intentioned enough the dog can still misinterpret the handlers "vibes" (idk what else to call them) and false signal anyways. the fact that there is even a CHANCE that this can happen should be grounds for these drug sniffing dogs to stop being used. i mean we don't use lie detectors in court because of the slim possibility for them to be wrong, so why should we leave the possible violation of someones 4th amendment rights into the hands (or paws :p) of a dog?

 

I had similar thoughts about it's validity in court. Then I found this...

 

http://reason.com/archives/2011/02/21/the-mind-of-a-police-dog

 

It goes a couple steps further than the original link... really interesting.

 

"...The results? Dog/handler teams correctly completed a search with no alerts in just 21 of the 144 walk-throughs. The other 123 searches produced an astounding 225 alerts, every one of them false. Even more interesting, the search points designed to trick the handlers (marked by the red slips of paper) were about twice as likely to trigger false alerts as the search points designed to trick the dogs (by luring them with sausages)."

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since dogs and whales are the same, do you think they have drug sniffing whales that are helping to crack down on drug trafficking by boat?

 

I wonder what grade they start teaching about drug sniffing whales?

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I agree with the whole being trained to just give a signal wether or not there is drugs in the car. Fucking Cops.

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tldr: DOGs = COPS

 

Only when you fight back trying to defend yourself from being mauled.

 

When they tear your limbs off, then they legally go back to just being a dog that doesn't know any better.

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the signals are actually up to interpretation by the handler, so the handler can just say "oh he signaled by looking at the tire" - there is no one signal for each dog. Canine searches are just a way for them to circumvent due process, if they bring a dog out, believe you are going to get searched, since the handler just has to say "oh the dog indicated by sniffing the door handle" or whatever bullshit. If you have ever seen a canine handler's testimony it is straight up bullshit.

 

Once my uncle was pulled over, the dog signaled, the cops opened his trunk, and found 2 bags of dog food.

 

another time I had got done smoking a giant blunt in my car, they pulled the canine out, and the dog just started bugging out before it even got 10 feet from my car. It just started going berserk barking and trying to pull away from the handler. It was pretty fucking hilarious, would have been more hilarious if I was not in the back of a police car watching it.

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