Dr. Scientist Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Right, that's a legit site for sure http://www.humanforsale.com/ Google it, you'll find the answers you seek. A Lawsuit was filed and it was settled out of court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen X Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 the bag 'o dix picture is pretty funny, hadn't seen that before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/01/after-terrific-year-music-biz-demands-that-world-adopt-sopa-plus.ars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Huh? "and STILL bitchin" about what? assumed you were agreeing with this guy I still don't get the mentality where someone is supposed to spend a great deal of time and money creating music or some sort of visual arts, and then they're supposed to turn around and just give it away for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newer Bigger Better Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Scientist i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to soup. I stopped listening to you when you sad that you were a shitty band on a shitty label. You should WANT people stealing your shit, at least then you would be getting your name out there, and you could tour... Which is where the real money is. Basically if the world was South Park, you'd be MOOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup forgot his password Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 assumed you were agreeing with this guy Yeah. Don't really agree with that sentiment. Historically musicians never made much on record sales. Most of their millions came from concerts and merch. Record companies took home the majority of record profits and left shows and merch sales to the artists. It's only with the advent of the internet killing record sales that the last 3 remaining record companies are turning to the "360 deal" which means they take a piece of record sales, merch, and concerts. If you're a musician in this day and age, I would make friends with a few computer nerds and manage/produce yourself. If anyone's got half an hour to kill. Cliff notes: Katy Perry's hit album cost her record label 44 million to produce/publicize and only returned 8 million profit... but katy perry's doin good. That's the old way of doing business with tens of millions in overhead while the young youtube pioneers take home almost everything they earn. http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/01/20/145538772/the-friday-podcast-katy-perrys-perfect-year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Lawsuit filed. . . then settled out of court. Two years? Stop tellin fibs. http://iplegalfreebies.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/fiat-pays-for-use-of-graffiti-mural-i-%E2%9D%A4-the-bronx-in-their-commercial/ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2090416/Jennifer-Lopez-slammed-Fiat-ad-AGAIN-anti-Iran-group-urges-end-endorsement.html http://blog.artistshousemusic.org/post/16083348186/fiat-pays-for-use-of-graffiti-mural-i-the-bronx-in I applaud their "win" but Ive been in a few legal battles and this wasnt a real legal "battle" that was Fiat cutting a quick check to avoid a shit storm allong with all the rest of the bad press. Had this been any other wall and another company, the company would have exhausted the artists money as long as it would take just to win. This is the norm in the real world. This TATS crew case is dope for writers but not a realistic thing to expect. And If I designed a tshirt and spent 10k on it, do you think Id be dumb enough to upload a high res version of it online? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newer Bigger Better Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Yeah even rushawnjuan watermarks his samples online, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup forgot his password Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Daymn that shirt's dope. Now if only I knew a website I could buy it at... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 screen cap it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 $30 PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup forgot his password Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I was about to post "that is the most bootleg of bootlegs" but then i remembered Sell it for $9112001 and you've got a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BISHOP Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I don't think it's the end of the Internet, it's only developing and there's no end to this process. PDF Editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 So if I hypothetically purchased a CD, retained the receipt but damaged/lost/left the CD in parents garage on the other side of the country, would it be considered a breach of the law if I hypothetically went on to a torrent site and DL'd the same CD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 what if you know the band and they told you verbally "use any of our music in your videos" but you get sued by the record label, can said band show up to court and slap a judge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walid Jumblat Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Mmm, I think so..., yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Scientist Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 And If I designed a tshirt and spent 10k on it, do you think Id be dumb enough to upload a high res version of it online? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Come on now, I'm talking about someone else ripping off you image and putting it out there for the world to use. Scientist i wasn't talking to you, i was talking to soup. I stopped listening to you when you sad that you were a shitty band on a shitty label. You should WANT people stealing your shit, at least then you would be getting your name out there, and you could tour... Which is where the real money is. Basically if the world was South Park, you'd be MOOP. By shitty band and shitty label I meant that I wasn't on Epic Records playing arenas with The Foo Fights. It was a label comparable in size and success to something like Epitaph Records. Took us to every major city in the U.S. and every major country in the rest of the world. Were we on MTV? No. . . did we get a gold record and a grammy? No. . . we got reviews in Alternative Press and Maximum Rock 'n Roll as Opposed to Rolling Stone and Hit Parade. Does a small band want as many people to get their music as possible. . . even if it's for free? That's a complicated question. It's yes and no. In order to tour, and sell T-Shirts (which is where the money is made) you need to have a booking agent. . . but no agent will represent you if you're not signed to a label, even a small, shitty one at that. And you wont play any real clubs unless you have good sound scans in those cities. Nothing is free at a label, if they lay out $50k to record and advertize, you don't make a cent until all of that is recouped. So, if people steal your music to the extent where the label doesn't make their $50k back, you're a bad investment and your contract wont be renewed, and you wont be able to have an agent book you shows. So you wont tour and sell shirts, etc. . . It's not as cut and dry as "I have lots of fans, I get lots of shows, I make lots of money". There's a hundred different angles that need to be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Scientist Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 what if you know the band and they told you verbally "use any of our music in your videos" but you get sued by the record label, can said band show up to court and slap a judge? Only if they have the publishing rights. . . if they signed the rights over to the label, then they can't give you permission to use the song even if they wrote it. Wait. . . did you say a verbal agreement? I wouldn't worry, A verbal agreement is the best form of proof you can have when in court. Don't ever get anything in writing, it'll only hurt your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymatics Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 http://techdirt.com/articles/20120124/04344817524/wil-wheaton-says-chris-dodd-is-lying-about-lost-jobs-says-mpaa-accounting-creates-more-losses-than-piracy.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
substanceOVERhype Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Come on now, I'm talking about someone else ripping off you image and putting it out there for the world to use. street justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 If his forehead was slightly bigger, people would take him serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spambot5000 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I spent a ton of loot on Vinyl, Tapes and CD's growing up and it almost always felt like a rip off. I honestly can't even remember the last time I payed a cover charge, even though I have the money. I feel as if I'm under no obligation to pay someone for recorded music unless I'm using it to make money myself. I do however provide shit tons of quality intelectual property for free almost every day because I love to do what I do. Not going to say it isn't annoying when someone doesn't credit me but as far as ending the internet as we know it over it, I think I'd prefer to keep the internet. Sick one bruz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindle Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 dat R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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