Sir Doodles Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 So recently a homie of mine told me that he's started spinning. I asked him what does he spin, and he tells me how he's into techno and house. I then proceed to ask him, do you spin on vinyl or CD's and he said no I'm on a laptop but I mix that shit raw. This is where I get confused and peeved (a little, not a lot). A DJ is someone who actually spins vinyl (and even CDs) but to say you're 'spinning' on a laptop, that's not deejaying, rather you're just a laptop specialist (credit due to Cubsin7 for that term). Like the music nazi who decides what playlists that everyone should listen to at a club or function at someones house. Did I miss the meeting to say "We're changing the format on what dictates a dj"? Discuss and ooontz away! This also includes the hipster a-holes who use ipods to 'mix'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MitchThe$nitch Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I have hated this shit for ever. Maybe I'm old....but it's gotta be vinyl, I can't even really get into the CD dj bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power Bill Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 check this laptop specialist! i love the ritual/ feel/ sound of vinyl but at the end of the day it is just an instrument. What you do with it is what matters. I can understand that it is pretty weak how you throw a rock down a street on any downtown and bean at least 2 so-called DJs.i dont care through, I just drum on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fondles Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 that vestax she is using is garbage, but her tits are big so that makes up for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Over the past 18 years I went from vinyl to CDs to a laptop for mixing....CDs are good for parties, laptops are good for radio, and vinyl sounds better. I'm all for evolution but too many people think fucking around with Serato for six months qualifies them to play out. Hell, I've never called myself a DJ even though I've gotten paying gigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_blank_ Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 do more xtc br0!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toiletseat Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 i one time saw a dj mixing with his ipods it was someone with aids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Doodles Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 Over the past 18 years I went from vinyl to CDs to a laptop for mixing....CDs are good for parties, laptops are good for radio, and vinyl sounds better. I'm all for evolution but too many people think fucking around with Serato for six months qualifies them to play out. Hell, I've never called myself a DJ even though I've gotten paying gigs. See this I can respect, you've evolved using various formats. But at least you started out on vinyl. Please pass me a mix now sir thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eviltrailer77 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 DJ = Disk Jockey, if there are no disks how are you a DJ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Sabah Nur Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 i play all vinyl. saturday i had a gig at an upstairs bar and had to carry all my crates and everything up two flights of stairs. as much as i love being a vinyl snob, it made me hate and envy the laptop dj. my back is still pissed off at me. traktor/serato is kind of an exception because the operation of it is almost exactly the same... but nobody respects the crate digging game anymore. when people come up and request shit (fuck you) i'm like "i play what i have." on a computer, i could just download whatever, spend no money... and in a way, i think that's why djs play so much bullshit now. you can play whatever retarded youtube kreayshawn shit you want without having to actually spend money and know that you own a physical piece of that music to be ashamed of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I loathe laptop DJs Watching a guy put on a track, shift thru his craft looking for something else and mixing it flawlessly is entertainment. Thankfully rub-a-dub is still mostly vinyl DJs :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I loathe laptop DJs Watching a guy put on a track, shift thru his crate looking for something else and mixing it flawlessly is entertainment. Thankfully rub-a-dub is still mostly vinyl DJs :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Vergudo Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I loathe laptop DJs Watching a guy put on a track, shift thru his crate looking for something else and mixing it flawlessly is entertainment. Thankfully rub-a-dub is still mostly vinyl DJs :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris The Butcher Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 I loathe laptop DJs Watching a guy put on a track, shift thru his crate looking for something else and mixing it flawlessly is entertainment. Thankfully rub-a-dub is still mostly vinyl DJs :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
En Sabah Nur Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 is this the real reason you brought this up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOU Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 There was a point in time playing records, not your own music was considered lame. Remember that at one point electronic music was looked down on as joke for people who couldn't play instruments. The laptop is really just a reinvention of technology that already exist, just in compact form. Chicago DJs used to bring in tape decks and reel to reel and some studio equipment to basically remix track on the fly and create studio type effects. The lap top DJ now has that all at the touch of a button. The true mark of any DJ is the ability to program. Knowing what to play, when to play and who to play it to. Jazzy Jeff don't used vinyl no more and can rock a party, but you ain't gonna get down cuz it ain't vinyl? If you're at a party worried about the medium and the message... Stay home. Programming is what sets a great DJ apart from the rest. As for the sound thing. Vinyl don't sound no better. It all depends on the mastering and production process, but anything analog tends to sound better to even the untrained ear. I have plenty of vinyl that is shit quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 i have nothing to add to this thread aside from wanting this badly this http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Shop/Specials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdoughnut69 Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 DJ=Vinyl and maybe cd's. Otherwise, you just arrange music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 what about cats like teebs and Daedelus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 moogle. let me help you out here right quick. if a niggas just pushing buttons and not giving any fucks whatsoever about beat matching or crowd response. they are doing it wrong. we ALL fucking know what a dj is in the greater sense of the word. especially those of us who grew up on hip hop and know niggas are s'posed to be on some turn table shit. but my slime. it's really not that serious. EVERY old school dj i know these days is pushing some sort of program. serato, torq, traktor whatever. if i could somehow magically acquire all different types music i own on records and find some fairly cheap out-of-make ass tech 12's i'd do it no question. but then comes the issue of transportation. if your in a city. niggas are NOT carrying that shit on the subway. i do not call myself a dj. for i've many year to earn. nor to i like it when people can't even beat match and claim to be. this is my set-up. yes it's cool a couple years departed. i need to use it more. life was sweet with a couple gigs a month and extra cheese spillin out the pockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Doodles Posted November 10, 2011 Author Share Posted November 10, 2011 As we say hurr in Chicago....One mo' 'gein! I loathe laptop DJs Watching a guy put on a track, shift thru his craft looking for something else and mixing it flawlessly is entertainment. Thankfully rub-a-dub is still mostly vinyl DJs :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuntflaps Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 there's pretty much 2 main ways to use a laptop to play out. A-you use ableton and rip loops from other artists and arrange it to make it sound like something new. Obviously the more talented ones are making their own original loops and arrangements from scratch and don't feel the need to 'borrow' others music. Mights have some hardware on the side, drum machine,fx or synth B-you use Traktor or similar system to mix wavs or mp3s ect. hooked up to cdjs or timecode vinyl(with decks of choice) I guess option B is attractive as dj's don't have to haul around creates of records. Most professional DJ's these days have jumped on the 'live' bandwagon playing with laptop/s, one or two cdjs'/decks, fx , sampler, fancy mixer, synth ect... Guys(n gals) that play with just laptops, unless it's fantastic bores the shit out of me, can't be fucked watching someone check their emails whilst pretending to 'dj" I'm biased though, mpc's, 909's & 303's all day.... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOOGLE? Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 moogle. let me help you out here right quick. if a niggas just pushing buttons and not giving any fucks whatsoever about beat matching or crowd response. they are doing it wrong. we ALL fucking know what a dj is in the greater sense of the word. especially those of us who grew up on hip hop and know niggas are s'posed to be on some turn table shit. but my slime. it's really not that serious. EVERY old school dj i know these days is pushing some sort of program. serato, torq, traktor whatever. if i could somehow magically acquire all different types music i own on records and find some fairly cheap out-of-make ass tech 12's i'd do it no question. but then comes the issue of transportation. if your in a city. niggas are NOT carrying that shit on the subway. i do not call myself a dj. for i've many year to earn. nor to i like it when people can't even beat match and claim to be. this is my set-up. yes it's cool a couple years departed. i need to use it more. life was sweet with a couple gigs a month and extra cheese spillin out the pockets. got it.. im prolly too much of a soundsystem type person then to really give any opinion in here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 Simply put, I appreciate the skills, could give a fuck about the equipment. A DJ, even one who spins vinyl, isn't in the business of pretending they're a live musician with instruments. They're there to lay down and blend the right tracks at the right time, play off the crowd, set the atmosphere, ect. Using Vinyl or CD's does not make a DJ legitimate or mean they don't suck, it's simply a preference. In all fairness would you diss a carpenter that used a nail gun instead of a hammer? An accountant that used a computer instead of an abacus or just adding everything in their heads? I just don't see the point in someone being more legitimate based on which technology they use. It's the results that count, was the party live is what matters, not how many crates you brought with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12packprophet Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 This conversation reminds me of when people used to say that hip-hop and electronic music wasn't real music because it didn't involve actually playing instruments. (Looks like Mercer beat me to it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thexstyles Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I started with the Technic 1200's too over 20 years ago. I hated on the CDJs when they came out and Hated on the Laptop mixing too. Guess what..... I eventually changed my mind and came around to actually using the newer technology. Does it have the same feel as rocking two turntables and diggin' through crates?? Hell No!!! But, Its a hell of a lot easier to carry your music around and some of the programs you can use now are pretty bad ass. Its just the evolution of the Dj. Deal..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutleone Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 I have hated this shit for ever. Maybe I'm old....but it's gotta be vinyl, I can't even really get into the CD dj bullshit. This. & I totally agree with the first post. I know DJing as mixing records n shit but having gone out to parties ive been extremely IAmDisappoint when i see the CD pads/laptop or CD player-mixingboard bullshit and theyre not even mixing.. just playing.. or ive been to parties where the "DJ" has many techy equipment but doesnt even know how to fucking use it.. fucking sounding like a turntable is sliding down the stairs and they call it scratching.. I felt like buddha when he left the temple for the first time.. smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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