gasfacevictm Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 I can't edit it but just to be clear, for those who can't grasp simple sarcasm...in my previous post I was joking. I got the sarcasm - the reason I dislike using sarcasm over the internet is because there's always a chance of misunderstanding it. http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/02/70179 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eviltrailer77 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 This debt ceiling "crisis" is a symptom of a larger problem within the government as a whole. The government solution to 90% of our social, economic, and infrastructure problems is to blindly throw piles of cash at it. All the while tacking "earmarkes" in the spending bills to help keep their political bed buddys pockets stuffed. This isnt a problem exclusive to the GOP or the dems, its across the board. The government should never be run like a business, but there needs to be greater accountability and transparency in the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 I heard some of that shit last night. Wish I knew more about politican because I gather from NPR this morning that shit could look real extra ugly after the Times up for a decision depending On what it is. But my thoughts on the matter are simple. I HATE ALL THESE NIGGAS WITH EXTRA BILLIONS LYING THE FUCK AROUND. revolution, Niggas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 I've been an avid supporter of Obama - I understand his reasoning behind his "Gandhi" like approach to politics. He is after all a student of Law just like Gandhi. If you use logic you begin to realize that Obama has been collecting evidence for the American people to see that Washington is corrupt and in need of change - Washington does not care for the welfare of the poor or ordinary but only looks out for the big corporation. In time I think Americans will realize who has been trying to fight for the greater good in Washington - you can't deny the fact that the establishment has been shelling out a lot of money for the talking heads to do they're evil bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Jefe Uno Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Fuck yeah for a two party system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drue_Down Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 >> Boogie Basement << Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicineCabinet Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 everything is fine guys, keep watching spike tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Manswers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SystemFailure Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 AND WE'LL SHOW U THE ONE COUNTRY THAT'S SPELLED CUNTRY BEFORE THAT: THE TOP 5 PLACES YOU CAN PAY IN ANAL SEX WITH PLAYBOY MODELS FROM 1978 AND AN EXCLUSIVE LOOK AT HOUSES THAT LOOK LIKE FEMALE BODY PARTS BOOOOOOOOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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injury Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Congress will care for big business until the day that the role of big business is removed. Plain. There must be a fundamental restructuring and consolidation of government cash expenditures, outflows, and social programs. At the same time, tax code must similarly be restructured. If taxes for the rich go up, everyone's taxes need to go up. Don't tax the rich simply cause "they rich an' i'm not yo fuck them niggas!!" Nonsensical. Creating a totally inhospitable environment for the wealthy will cause them to leave; they pay a large amount of the country's ax revenue already. Don't believe me? Read for yourself. These reforms go together. I am anti-earmark as well. Constituency-pleasers and not much else. The entire country will suffer to get through these times. That's the political poison noone's mentioning. Solving, or improving, our nation's situation will require great sacrifice by all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 naw fool its not tax "increases" for the rich - it's actually removing the tax cuts bush jr. placed for the wealthy. by the way I like how republicans are changing voting requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Yeh I forgot - There's such a thing called Tax Fraud and most of those big companies are masters of not placing the actual numbers in they're books. One way they do this is ship Jobs, Work, w.e you wanna call it - overseas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasfacevictm Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The debt ceiling has been raised multiple times during every presidential term since Reagan was in office. This shit is regular practice. News is just hyping it. Divide--->conquer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 All Obama is asking for is the Top 1% - 5% to pay more. People who make more than $250,000 a year. Who Pays Income Taxes and how much? Tax Year 2008 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $380,354 38.02 Top 5% $159,619 58.72 Top 10% $113,799 69.94 Top 25% $67,280 86.34 Top 50% $33,048 97.30 Bottom 50% <$33,048 2.7 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service Tax Year 2007 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $410,096 40.42 Top 5% $160,041 60.63 Top 10% $113,018 71.22 Top 25% $66,532 86.59 Top 50% $32,879 97.11 Bottom 50% <$32,879 2.89 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service Tax Year 2006 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $388,806 39.89 Top 5% $153,542 60.14 Top 10% $108,904 70.79 Top 25% $64,702 86.27 Top 50% $31,987 97.01 Bottom 50% <$31,987 2.99 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2005 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $364,657 39.38 Top 5% $145,283 59.67 Top 10% $103,912 70.30 Top 25% $62,068 85.99 Top 50% $30,881 96.93 Bottom 50% <$30,881 3.07 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2004 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $328,049 36.89 Top 5% $137,056 57.13 Top 10% $99,112 68.19 Top 25% $60,041 84.86 Top 50% $30,122 96.70 Bottom 50% <$30,122 3.30 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2003 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $295,495 34.27 Top 5% $130,080 54.36 Top 10% $94,891 65.84 Top 25% $57,343 83.88 Top 50% $29,019 96.54 Bottom 50% <$29,019 3.46 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2002 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $285,424 33.71 Top 5% $126,525 53.80 Top 10% $92,663 65.73 Top 25% $56,401 83.90 Top 50% $28,654 96.50 Bottom 50% <$28,654 3.50 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2001 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $292,913 33.89 Top 5% $127,904 53.25 Top 10% $92,754 64.89 Top 25% $56,085 82.90 Top 50% $28,528 96.03 Bottom 50% <$28,528 3.97 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 2000 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $313,469 37.42 Top 5% $128,336 56.47 Top 10% $92,144 67.33 Top 25% $55,225 84.01 Top 50% $27,682 96.09 Bottom 50% <$27,682 3.91 Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income Source: Internal Revenue Service For Tax Year 1999 Percentiles Ranked by AGI AGI Threshold on Percentiles Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid Top 1% $293,415 36.18 Top 5% $120,846 55.45 Top 10% $87,682 66.45 Top 25% $52,965 83.54 Top 50% $26,415 96.00 Bottom 50% <$26,415 4.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 To bring the dollar, the US, and a large chunk of the world into a depression, because the rich's free ride should end, where they have a lessor tax burden in decades is a fucking selfish move, ecspecially when motherfuckers say that we all have to share the burden equally. Motherfuckers saying that are paticularlly retarded. The burden will not be shared, but will be held by the middle class and below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Look at the percentages - none of you I'm pretty sure make more than $30,000. but I might be wrong, I know for damn sure I don't make that much, and I'm college educated and employed. Not even all of the McDonald's Drive thru cashiers don't make that much annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ^you are wrong, at least for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injury Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I agree that tax loopholes need to be filled and penalties for tax, income, and other fraud need to be higher and easier to enforce ... that doesn't make me feel any better though. Businesses are, sadly, businesses, and anything that can be done to hide numbers will be done. GE paid zero taxes recently due to accounting acrobatics. Do i like that? Not at all. But it's still our law. The law needs to change before people start opening fire on businesses who are taking advantages of blatant holes. They're "coming up," in rap speak. You'd do the same if you found a way to not pay income taxes, don't lie. The bailout of the banks made me feel awful, nothing changed and, for the most part, those responsible weren't punished and many retained their jobs. Fuck that. They came up through many of the same loopholes. Change them, make american markets and businesses a little more liable. What I am also saying is that rich doesn't equal evil. The majority of us aren't rich... myself included ... that doesn't mean we hate them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CILONE/SK Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I do not hate them, but to give them a break with the bush tax cuts and for alot of them to be paying less right now then they have in decades is bullshit. Ecspecially when you take into the lower rates on capital gains. They do not need the break anymore and it is not raising taxes, it is restoring them to the low rates they had before bush. No matter what, this whole thing is about the US paying their bills that were legal when we incurred them. Not tax breaks or anything else. The rest of the shot is add ons from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/07/26/new.york.trade.center.cancer/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Program won't cover 9/11 responders for cancer. And freedom and justice for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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