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Ten Congressmen Sue President Obama Over Libya Mission, War Powers Act

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Reps. Dennis Kucinich and Walter Jones continued their bipartisan quest to end the U.S. military’s participation in the conflict in Libya, filing a lawsuit Tuesday in federal court against President Obama to “challenge the commitment of the United States to war in Libya absent the required constitutional legal authority.”

The lawsuit challenges what the lawmakers see as “the executive branch’s circumvention of Congress and its use of international organizations such as the United Nations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to authorize the use of military force abroad, in violation of the Constitution.”

“With regard to the war in Libya, we believe that the law was violated. We have asked the courts to move to protect the American people from the results of these illegal policies,” Kucinich said in a statement announcing the suit.

The lawsuit is signed by a bipartisan group of members of the House, including Kucinich (D-Ohio), Jones (R-North Carolina), Howard Coble (R-North Carolina), John Duncan (R-Tennessee), Roscoe Bartlett (R-Maryland), John Conyers (D-Michigan) Ron Paul (R-Texas), Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts), Tim Johnson (R-Illinois) and Dan Burton (R-Indiana).

 

 

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good, but government lawyers and supreme court justices will most likely rule that this was in fact constitutional due to some ridiculous interpretation of the law they happen to have.

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exactly CIL

 

we did Bosnia. we're in NATO. get over it.

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exactly CIL

 

we did Bosnia. we're in NATO. get over it.

 

 

When we invade (full scale) later this summer/early fall, will you retract "we're in NATO, get over it"?

 

As an aside: It's funny because when Bush did it the liberals were all about shouting it from the rooftops, when Obama

does it "we're in NATO, get over it".

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As an aside: It's funny because when Bush did it the liberals were all about shouting it from the rooftops, when Obama

does it "we're in NATO, get over it".

 

yup.

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I just wish we had a "end state" when we take military action against someone else.

 

The United Sates loves going into conflicts with no clear mission. We end up not knowing when we have accomplished our goal and drag things out way too far.

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I just wish we had a "end state" when we take military action against someone else.

 

The United Sates loves going into conflicts with no clear mission. We end up not knowing when we have accomplished our goal and drag things out way too far.

 

 

You totally missed the boat, man. Don't you remember? Mission accomplished, bruh.

We did it. We won the war.

 

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I just wish we had a "end state" when we take military action against someone else.

 

The United Sates loves going into conflicts with no clear mission. We end up not knowing when we have accomplished our goal and drag things out way too far.

 

That's the point though.

 

Or at least, I thought it was. The people who usually start these things have no intention of ever leaving, shall I pull the Dick Cheney quote? Even if our military does eventually back out, the investment into these nations will keep us interested, and financially committed.

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You totally missed the boat, man. Don't you remember? Mission accomplished, bruh.

We did it. We won the war.

 

IPSMs.jpg

 

Thats right!!! I almost forgot. Since I turned my cable off, I have not been watching Fox News, and I was beginning to start to think for myself. What the hell was I thinking, I have to make sure I get my "Real" news before I start making sense.:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

For real, while I was sitting in Afghanistan and Iraq, I did wonder what the hell our big "mission" was and hoping it had nothing to do with oil or money for people who already have too much money.

 

I still do not know what we are doing in Libya.

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The lawsuit is signed by a bipartisan group of members of the House, including Kucinich (D-Ohio), Jones (R-North Carolina), Howard Coble (R-North Carolina), John Duncan (R-Tennessee), Roscoe Bartlett (R-Maryland), John Conyers (D-Michigan) Ron Paul (R-Texas), Michael Capuano (D-Massachusetts), Tim Johnson (R-Illinois) and Dan Burton (R-Indiana).

 

 

 

Went to look up which of these Republicans are just partisan hypocrites, and voted Yay on invading Iraq... found 3 of the Republicans were hypocrites. Burton was the only one not in office at the time.

 

Tim Johnson

Walter Jones - was also one of the idiots that started that "Freedom Fries" thing. To his credit, he did start to oppose the war later on.

Howard Coble

 

These guys were war hawks then became doves when Obama got in office.

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Went to look up which of these Republicans are just partisan hypocrites, and voted Yay on invading Iraq... found 3 of the Republicans were hypocrites. Burton was the only one not in office at the time.

 

Tim Johnson

Walter Jones - was also one of the idiots that started that "Freedom Fries" thing. To his credit, he did start to oppose the war later on.

Howard Coble

 

These guys were war hawks then became doves when Obama got in office.

 

Not that there isn't a point to this, but aren't people allowed to change there minds after a chain of certain events?

 

I mean, not that this is true, but after Sept. 11th we were lead to believe that Sadaam was directly involved and also had WMD's. Neither are true and we know that now, but Libya and Iraq are like comparing apples and oranges, at least in circumstance.

 

This isn't just about hating Obama, and making everything seem like that makes the actual issue at hand disappear.

 

Also, just want to add that I really don't know shit about any of these guys except for Paul and Kucinich.

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Did you look into the democrats? That's pretty one sided if you just looked up repubs.

 

 

No, I'm confident they voted against it - the majority of the Democratic Congress voted against the war . Like Kucinich. Also, I didn't look up Ron Paul because I was confident he voted against the Iraq War.

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No, I'm confident they voted against it - the majority of the Democratic Congress voted against the war . Like Kucinich. Also, I didn't look up Ron Paul because I was confident he voted against the Iraq War.

 

 

Check into them for shits and giggles. It won't take very long.

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Coble, Y - R-North Carolina

Jones, Y - R-North Carolina

Duncan, N - R-Tennessee

Bartlett, Y - R-Maryland

Conyers, N -D-Michigan

Burton, Y - R-Indiana (didnt check if this was the right guy)

Johnson, Y - R-Illinois

Capuano, N -D-Massachusetts

Kucinich, N - D-Ohio

Paul, N; - R -Texas

 

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/10/10/203425.shtml sauce

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Yep - I was wrong on some of the Republicans - a few more voted Yay on Iraq.

 

But I was correct that all the Democrats voted Nay.

 

Proof that Democrats are more likely to be consistent and honest with their principles, including going after a Democratic President - while Republicans are a bunch of partisan hypocritical hacks.

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Theo, we both know that in politics minds change like days. Whatever, I'm glad that they're taking this to court...or trying to.

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No.

 

However nobody addressed my post.

 

Also playing into the left/right sides is really not what this is about, both sides do the same shit. can we get past it?

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See, I do not think both sides do the same stuff. Ok some of them do, but there is distinct differences in the behavior of both sides. I do not trust any of them, but for me Republicans are definitely "do as I say and not as I do" fuckers, while the Dems are more robin hood, although you are still the ones getting robbed.

 

It is choosing between two evils and I think the republicans are definitely the more evil of the two.

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