Asian Eater Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 i dont think punk or heavy metal ruined graffiti's style. that happy, round, curvy, lots of arrows, messy, badly drawn, illogical letter proportion style is not really inspired by either genre. European graffiti lulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juca Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 European graffiti lulz same shit you can find in every part of the world,no just in europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asian Eater Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 trudat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUDER Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I love punk, and I love hip hop. And I can do graff better then the two combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnitzel Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 shit graffiti ruined graffiti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anti-style Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 graffiti is a fad for most and like all fads will die and then only real heads of all types will remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenthen2468 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Then you have reached the maximum marks you can set. __________________ Mature, sensible signature required for responsible position. Good prospects for the right candidate. Apply within. Replica Handbags Louis Vuitton Handbags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoldOne Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 I saw graff as a child and knew i wanted to get into it way before i ever got into hip hop. Hip hop was definitely my gateway into graff though. Most of my friends and that writers arent even into hip hop. I know writers who are straight metal heads, punk rockers, indie kids and even a hipster kid. They kill shit! They love graff. Each of them brings something new to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndlessCanvas Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Punk and HipHop styles have always borrowed from each other. (http://www.EndlessCanvas.com - Original Graffiti Photos Daily from the Bay Area, California.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOEMACKSPAINTHXA Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Re: Has HIP HOP ruined graffiti's 'style'? IF IT WASN'T FOR SUICIDAL EXCEL UNCLE SLAM THE WHOLE VENICE 80'S SCENE! YOU WOULD HAVE NO AWR/MSK/CBS! THE MEXICAN BARIO'S BEEN WRITING SINCE BEFORE THE 50'S(DECADES BEFORE TAKI) SO DONT GIVE ME THIS PUNK METAL RUINED GRAFFS STYLE WRITING ON WALLS STARTED IN LA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVup3AY57PY SPRAY PAINT THE WALLS BLACK FLAG 1981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shai Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Maybe 10% of the writers I know are into hip-hop...the vast majority I've met via the punk scene. I don't think music has anything to do with quality...some people are lazier since the internet became their main source of inspiration. On the flip side of that, I see a lot of styles being mixed with varying results. Commitment and talent have a lot more of an impact on me than skill. Anyone can rip ideas off, practice and learn how to fake it, but they're never going to stand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 graffiti is simple. if you don't like it, then just go over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenger_invader Posted February 13, 2011 Share Posted February 13, 2011 graffiti is simple. if you don't like it, then just go over it. this. i barely listen to music at all and when i do it isn't punk, metal or hip hop. i just like to write/paint on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuicidexKing Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hipsters are the worst. They just want to cash in on every sub culture they can find. But I dont think real punks and hardcore kids are ruining anything. Like Norm from MSK, hes a true underground head and has had some serious time in the hardcore scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbs Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 graffiti letter structure is getting simpler because there's more cops, more cameras, more under covers. the boundaries of what is "real" art, and "real" music are a thing of the past. embrace the new, don't bitch about it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
They All Sons Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 if you aint trying to be fresh you are not doing my type of graffiti. not fixing your outlines when you fuck up and force fields that dont fit snuggly on your outline for the sake of making your shit trendy. im not talking about toys here im taking about people who have shown to be able to be fresh in the past but are choosing the path that is becoming accepted as new and current. to me thats a cop out so you can get out of dodge quicker. skinny tip bombing because you cant rack enough paint. anyways thats what is fucking up graff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThisWarIsNoise Posted March 13, 2011 Share Posted March 13, 2011 don't associate hipsters and scene kids with punks and ..thanks but yea uh I think there are people who are in it for a minute and don't know the history about style and thats why graff is going down the tubes I know dudes who listen to straight up reggae and are dope at graff. Its not about the music you listen to, it's about the work and dedication, and time you put in like anything else, thats just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawnmower420 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 how is taggin on the wall a song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeroUno Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 This the problem, people to much into the politics. This a passion for me, on no grounds of music or tryna fit in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crack rock steady Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 The more kids, hip hop heads, metal heads, punks, old men, girls the better. Who gives a shit who did it, as long as they did it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great_White14 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 the internet ruined graffiti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETZ Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I gonna go with...it doesn't matter what music your into, its just some people have style and some don't. You have to want it, to become a better writer. and of course there is always going to be people who just want to tag wack shit and destroy things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 hands down if you don't listen to hip hop, you're not a graffiti writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autoteller Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 i could stand to lose hip hop's 'style' from graffiti. then maybe it'll look a lot less like arrows and played out styles executed cleanly. the old dudes undoubtedly get a pass for this since they're the innovators of this style, and were cultivated in such an atmosphere. i'd rather see dudes push the envelope, if that means hip hop is taken out of equation and the 'comfort zone' it's been in for years, then so be it, this ain't beat street anymore. besides, i'd rather have someone push a needle through both of my testicles at once than let newer hip hop define styles. you seen these dudes? i'll let you keep the 50000 pieces with aesop rock and atmosphere quotes next to it, and i'll take the weird ones motivated by slayer and sacrificing virgins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSyndrome Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Style is what brings the individuality to the graff culture, it's what makes people stand out from a crop full of bitten styles that were handed down from one generation to the next. We are seeing an emergence of a different mutations of the culture. If you've managed to make a name for yourself and have a following then you've achieved what you set out too do in the first place. Sure hip hop was part of it form the early years, but even hip hop music is a bunch of different styles of music mashed up to make a new sound or beat. It's all subjective in the end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignition Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 lil wayne and gucci are real graffiti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveboxcars Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 people have been saying this shit since the mid 90s. probably before that, but i can only talk about what i know. when will this faggot discussion die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the graff giraffe Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 graffiti is so generic most of the time. hip hop shit looks gay as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoopit Posted April 3, 2011 Share Posted April 3, 2011 This makes me laugh, you all know modern day graffiti pre dates the hip hop movment. When they were painting trains in the 70's hip hop wasn't widley recorded and most writers listened to funk/rocknroll/metal and some were even punks. The writers and cholos on the west coast bumped oldies from the 40's and 50's and electro. Graffiti got put in with hip hop beacause artists were doing the fliers for all the jams. Case Closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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