The Classic Crime Thread........ Sponsored by !@#$%

[Smacky636]

Okay so D B Cooper sparked some interest. So lets see how the pro's did it... Points go to the dudes/gals that did it and got away with it. Robert Stack type shit. no petty shit, legit CLASSIC type Crimaniminals!

 

i'll start it off with the first serial killler... you can call him Jack...

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_the_ripper

 

 

"Jack the Ripper" is the best-known name given to an unidentified serial killer who was active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888. The name originated in a letter, written by someone claiming to be the murderer, that was disseminated in the media. The letter is widely believed to have been a hoax, and may have been written by a journalist in a deliberate attempt to heighten interest in the story. Other nicknames used for the killer at the time were "The Whitechapel Murderer" and "Leather Apron".

 

Attacks ascribed to the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes from the slums whose throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer possessed anatomical or surgical knowledge. Rumours that the murders were connected intensified in September and October 1888, and letters from a writer or writers purporting to be the murderer were received by media outlets and Scotland Yard. The "From Hell" letter, received by George Lusk of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, included half of a preserved human kidney, supposedly from one of the victims. Mainly because of the extraordinarily brutal character of the murders, and because of media treatment of the events, the public came increasingly to believe in a single serial killer known as "Jack the Ripper".

 

Extensive newspaper coverage bestowed widespread and enduring international notoriety on the Ripper. An investigation into a series of brutal killings in Whitechapel up to 1891 was unable to connect all the killings conclusively to the murders of 1888, but the legend of Jack the Ripper solidified. As the murders were never solved, the legends surrounding them became a combination of genuine historical research, folklore, and pseudohistory. The term "ripperology" was coined to describe the study and analysis of the Ripper cases. There are now over one hundred theories about the Ripper's identity, and the murders have inspired multiple works of fiction

 

 

"Jack the Ripper" is the best-known name given to an unidentified serial killer who was active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888. The name originated in a letter, written by someone claiming to be the murderer, that was disseminated in the media. The letter is widely believed to have been a hoax, and may have been written by a journalist in a deliberate attempt to heighten interest in the story. Other nicknames used for the killer at the time were "The Whitechapel Murderer" and "Leather Apron".

 

Attacks ascribed to the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes from the slums whose throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer possessed anatomical or surgical knowledge. Rumours that the murders were connected intensified in September and October 1888, and letters from a writer or writers purporting to be the murderer were received by media outlets and Scotland Yard. The "From Hell" letter, received by George Lusk of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, included half of a preserved human kidney, supposedly from one of the victims. Mainly because of the extraordinarily brutal character of the murders, and because of media treatment of the events, the public came increasingly to believe in a single serial killer known as "Jack the Ripper".

 

Extensive newspaper coverage bestowed widespread and enduring international notoriety on the Ripper. An investigation into a series of brutal killings in Whitechapel up to 1891 was unable to connect all the killings conclusively to the murders of 1888, but the legend of Jack the Ripper solidified. As the murders were never solved, the legends surrounding them became a combination of genuine historical research, folklore, and pseudohistory. The term "ripperology" was coined to describe the study and analysis of the Ripper cases. There are now over one hundred theories about the Ripper's identity, and the murders have inspired multiple works of fiction

 

 

"Jack the Ripper" is the best-known name given to an unidentified serial killer who was active in the largely impoverished areas in and around the Whitechapel district of London in 1888. The name originated in a letter, written by someone claiming to be the murderer, that was disseminated in the media. The letter is widely believed to have been a hoax, and may have been written by a journalist in a deliberate attempt to heighten interest in the story. Other nicknames used for the killer at the time were "The Whitechapel Murderer" and "Leather Apron".

 

Attacks ascribed to the Ripper typically involved female prostitutes from the slums whose throats were cut prior to abdominal mutilations. The removal of internal organs from at least three of the victims led to proposals that their killer possessed anatomical or surgical knowledge. Rumours that the murders were connected intensified in September and October 1888, and letters from a writer or writers purporting to be the murderer were received by media outlets and Scotland Yard. The "From Hell" letter, received by George Lusk of the Whitechapel Vigilance Committee, included half of a preserved human kidney, supposedly from one of the victims. Mainly because of the extraordinarily brutal character of the murders, and because of media treatment of the events, the public came increasingly to believe in a single serial killer known as "Jack the Ripper".

[Smacky636]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Gein

 

does anyone know Ed?

 

 

Edward Theodore "Ed" Gein (pronounced /ˈɡiːn/; August 27, 1906 – July 26, 1984) was an American murderer and body snatcher. His crimes, which he committed around his hometown of Plainfield, Wisconsin, garnered widespread notoriety after authorities discovered Gein had exhumed corpses from local graveyards and fashioned trophies and keepsakes from their bones and skin.

[the graff giraffe]

http://gawker.com/5584243/barefoot-bandit-colton-harris+moore-arrested-in-bahamas

 

'Barefoot Bandit' Colton Harris-Moore Arrested In the Bahamas (Updated)

 

One of the greatest fugitives of our time, 19-year-old Colton Harris-Moore, the "Barefoot Bandit," has reportedly been arrested in the Bahamas, where he is said to have crash landed a small plane. A two year odyssey has ended. (Updated)

 

Authorities in the Bahamas have been tracking Harris-Moore since they found a small plane on Great Abaco Island last week. He was reportedly picked up early this morning on the island of Eleuthera, after police there found a 44-foot power boat that had been stolen from another island. Local boat captains reported seeing a teenage boy swimming and hanging around in the woods on the island. Later they found the ignitions to three boats damaged, and a bar at the harbor had been broken into. The manager of Coakley's International Sporting Lounge on the island said the remote controls for the television had been moved: "He was watching television. He was just chilling."

 

Nicknamed the "Barefoot Bandit" because he liked to go shoeless while stealing cars, boats and airplanes, Harris-Moore once left a chalk outline of his feet for his pursuers. He has been in trouble with the law steadily since age 12, when he was convicted of possessing stolen property. Harris-Moore has been on the run for the last two years, after he left a halfway house outside of Seattle. He had no formal flight training, yet managed to steal and fly planes. A timeline of his exploits can be seen here.

 

The outpouring of support on a Facebook fanpage set up for Harris-Moore has been great, and the news of his capture saddened many. We will update throughout the day as the details of this sad turn of events become clear. Authorities in the Bahamas are expected to hold a press conference later.

 

Update: According to CNN, Harris-Moore was apprehended after a high speed boat chase and was seen carrying a gun. He ran past a man on a dock and said "They're going to kill me."

[stoopit]

Yah but eddy gein got caught red handed and wasnt no pro the boy was retarted

[Realism]

Yeah...Gein was FAR from a pro

 

For some dope "got away with it" shit, look up the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist...happened in Boston in 1990.

[Smacky636]

Ed, did get caught but, for an influential part of history, he got it.

[Smacky636]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac_killer

 

here's for getting away...

 

The Zodiac Killer was a serial killer who operated in Northern California in the late 1960s. The Zodiac killer's identity remains unknown. The Zodiac killer coined the name "Zodiac" in a series of taunting letters sent to the local Bay Area press. These letters included four cryptograms (or ciphers), three of which have yet to be solved. The Zodiac murdered victims in Benicia, Vallejo, Lake Berryessa, and San Francisco between December 1968 and October 1969. Four men and three women between the ages of 16 and 29 were targeted. Numerous suspects have been named by law enforcement and amateur investigators but no conclusive evidence has surfaced.

 

In April 2004, the San Francisco Police Department marked the case "inactive", yet re-opened the case at some point prior to March 2007.[1] The case also remains open in the city of Vallejo as well as in Napa County and Solano County.[2] The California Department of Justice has maintained an open case file on the Zodiac murders since 1969.[3]

[vanfullofretards]

 

For some dope "got away with it" shit, look up the Isabella Stewart Gardner Museum heist...happened in Boston in 1990.

 

 

Art theft of 1990

 

----wiki

 

Shortly after midnight on the morning of March 18, 1990, thieves disguised as police officers talked their way into the museum. They handcuffed the two on-duty security guards out of sight and then stole thirteen works of art valued at over $500 million, including The Concert, one of Johannes Vermeer's thirty-five known paintings, and three works by Rembrandt van Rijn, including his only seascape, The Storm on the Sea of Galilee, and a small self-portrait print. Also stolen were a series of drawings by Edgar Degas and additional works by Édouard Manet and Govaert Flinck, as well as two objects: a Chinese Ku, or beaker, and a finial from a Napoleonic flag.[8] It is considered the biggest art theft—and property theft—in history; the crime remains unsolved. The museum still displays the paintings' empty frames in their original locations. Some mistakenly believe this to be according to the strict provisions of Gardner's will, which instructed that the collection be maintained unchanged, but that claim is completely untrue, as evidence by the fact that only nine frames involved in the theft still hang..[9]

A reward of $5 million is offered for information leading to the return of the works of art in good condition.

[vanfullofretards]

How about some assassin type shit? Mob hitmen and whatnot. I guess you'll never hear about the best ones though.

[Boris The Butcher]

Mexican drug lord

 

Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera nicknamed "El Chapo"

 

regarded as the 60th of 68 most powerful people in the world by Forbes Magazine.regarded as the 60th of 68 most powerful people in the world by Forbes Magazine.

 

 

Guzmán was captured in Guatemala on June 9, 1993,[10] extradited to Mexico and sentenced to 20 years, 9 months in prison for drug trafficking, criminal association and bribery charges. He was jailed in the maximum security La Palma (now 'Altiplano') prison. On November 22, 1995, he was transferred to the maximum security Puente Grande prison in Jalisco, Mexico, after being convicted of three crimes: possession of firearms, drug trafficking, and the murder of Cardinal Juan Jesus Posadas Ocampo (the charge would later be dismissed by another judge). He had been tried and sentenced inside the federal prison on the outskirts of Almoloya de Juárez, Mexico State. His trial was conducted by a judge, but without a jury.

 

The police say Guzmán carefully masterminded his escape plan, wielding influence over almost everyone in the prison, including the facility's director. He allegedly had the prison guards on his payroll, smuggled contraband into the prison and received preferential treatment from the staff. In addition to the prison-employee accomplices, police in Jalisco were paid off to ensure he had at least 24 hours to get out of the state and stay ahead of the military manhunt. The story told to the guards being bribed was that Joaquin was smuggling gold out of the prison, ostensibly extracted from rock at the inmate workshop. The escape allegedly cost Joaquin $2.5 million.

 

After a ruling by the Supreme Court of Mexico made it easier for extradition to occur between Mexico and the United States, Guzmán bribed several guards to aid his escape. On January 19, 2001, Francisco "El Chito" Camberos Rivera opened Guzman's electronically operated cell door, where Guzman got in a laundry cart that Camberos rolled through several doors and eventually out the front door. Guzman was then transported in the trunk of a car driven by Camberos out of the town. At a gas station Camberos went inside, when he came back Guzman was gone on foot into the night. According to officials, seventy-eight people have been implicated in his escape plan.

 

 

Since his escape from prison, he had been wanting to take over the Ciudad Juárez crossing points, which are under control of the Carrillo Fuentes family of the Juárez Cartel. Despite high mistrust between the two organizations, the Sinaloa and Juárez cartels had an alliance at the time. He convened a meeting in Monterrey with Ismael Zambada Garcia ("El Mayo"), Juan José Esparragoza Moreno ("El Azul") and one of the Beltrán Levya brothers and they discussed killing Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes, who was in charge of the Juárez Cartel. On September 11, 2004, Rodolfo, his wife, and two young children were visiting a Culiacán shopping mall. While leaving the mall, escorted by police commander Pedro Pérez Lopez, the family was ambushed by members of Los Negros, assassins for the Sinaloa Cartel. Rodolfo and his wife were killed, the policeman survived.

 

This now meant the plaza would no longer be controlled only by the Carrillo Fuentes family. Instead, the city found itself the front line in a country-wide drug war and would see homicides skyrocket as rival cartels fought for control. With this act, Guzman was the first to break the nonaggression 'pact' the major cartels had agreed to; setting in motion the fighting between cartels for drug routes that has claimed more than 28,000 lives since December 2006.

[IrishCarBombs]

Jimmy Hoffa

Deposed Teamsters president Jimmy Hoffa vanished in July 1975 from a Detroit restaurant. Guessing the whereabouts of his corpse (Hoffa was declared dead in 1982) has since been a national pastime. Under Giants Stadium, down a Pennsylvania mineshaft or buried in Northern Michigan are popular options. Thanks to his strong-arm tactics, Hoffa had many enemies, including government officials, labor leaders and mobsters, who presumably rubbed him out. The 2004 book "I Heard You Paint Houses" claimed that the late hit man Frank Sheeran shot Hoffa outside Detroit, and left the body there.

 

still haven't found his body, Myth busters jrecently did an episode where they searched giants stadium

[wiggerneck]

pilgrims killed the indians

[Leather Apron]

:D

 

 

 

 

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[injury]

"i heard you paint houses" is a good little book. recommended.

[!@#$%]

sweet thread.

 

^i've heard of that, i'll check it out.

 

elmyr de hory

 

Elmyr de Hory (born 'Hoffmann Elemér') (1906 – December 11, 1976) was a Hungarian-born painter and art forger who claimed to have sold over a thousand forgeries to reputable art galleries all over the world. His forgeries garnered much celebrity from a Clifford Irving book, Fake!, and from F for Fake (1974), a documentary essay film by Orson Welles.

 

........

 

On arriving in Paris de Hory attempted to make an honest living as an artist, but soon discovered that he had an uncanny ability to copy the works of noted painters. So good were his copies that many of his friends believed them to be genuine; in 1946 de Hory sold a reproduction of a Picasso to a British friend who took it for an original. He began to sell his Picasso reproductions to art galleries, claiming that they were what remained of his family's estate. Galleries took the paintings and paid de Hory the equivalent of (USD) $100 to $400 (circa 1947 Dollars?) per painting. Elmyr was always unique among art forgers in that, rather than attempting to copy existing works by celebrated artists, he only painted original works in their style, which made the forgeries much harder to detect.

 

......

of course he was exposed eventually.

 

Elmyr continued to elude the police for some time, but, tired of life in exile, decided to move back to Ibiza to accept his fate. In August 1968, a Spanish court convicted him of the crimes of homosexuality and of consorting with criminals, sentencing him to 2 months in prison. He was never directly charged with forgery, because the court could not prove that he had ever created any forgeries on Spanish soil. He was released in October 1968 and expelled from Spain

 

but never did real time.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elmyr_de_Hory

 

i gotta come up with some better contributions.

[Smacky636]

Jim Jones, no not that one...

 

 

 

James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 suicide of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip.

 

Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.

 

The greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001, the tragedy at Guyana also ranks among the largest mass murders/mass suicides in history. One of those who died at the nearby airstrip was Leo Ryan, who remains the only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.[1]

 

 

 

 

James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 suicide of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip.

 

Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.

 

The greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001, the tragedy at Guyana also ranks among the largest mass murders/mass suicides in history. One of those who died at the nearby airstrip was Leo Ryan, who remains the only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.[1]

 

 

 

 

 

James Warren "Jim" Jones (May 13, 1931 – November 18, 1978) was the founder and leader of the Peoples Temple, which is best known for the November 18, 1978 suicide of more than 900 Temple members in Jonestown, Guyana along with the killings of five other people at a nearby airstrip.

 

Jones was born in Indiana and started the Temple in that state in the 1950s. Jones and the Temple later moved to California, and both gained notoriety with the move of the Temple's headquarters to San Francisco in the mid-1970s.

 

The greatest single loss of American civilian life in a non-natural disaster until the events of September 11, 2001, the tragedy at Guyana also ranks among the largest mass murders/mass suicides in history. One of those who died at the nearby airstrip was Leo Ryan, who remains the only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.[1]

[anything goes]

Hometown Hero, not on the same level as some of the above mentioned but still worthy of this thread IMO

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayful_Edmond

 

Rayful Edmond

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Rayful Edmond III

Born Rayful Edmond III

November 26, 1964

Washington, D.C.

Alias(es) Ray

 

Rayful Edmond III (born November 26, 1964 in Washington, D.C.), was a notorious drug dealer who is largely credited with introducing crack cocaine into the Washington, D.C. area. During this time period, Washington, DC was known as the "murder capital" because crack cocaine had ravaged the city, so much so that people were afraid to leave their homes, or take public transportation.[1]

 

Criminal career

 

Edmond was alleged to have moved large amounts of cocaine. In an indictment involving two of Edmond's associates, it said that they bought between 1,000 and 2,000 kilos over a 1 week period at a time, in 1992, from the Trujillo-Blanco brothers, who were associated with the Medellin cartel, and sold the drugs to Washington area wholesalers. He was known to have spent some $457,619 in an exclusive Georgetown store (Linea Pitti, specializing in Italian men's clothing) owned by Charles Wynn who was later convicted on 34 counts of money laundering. Edmond estimated earnings were approximately $300 million annually.[2] In one year, Edmond's organization, which employed 150 people, committed 30 murders.[3]

 

Relationship with the Georgetown Hoyas

 

Edmond was an avid fan of the Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team. He sat courtside at the Capital Centre for Hoyas home games, always surrounded by his entourage and bodyguards. He relished the "12 angry black men" image of the Hoyas, often touting them as "Black America's Team," the "First Team" of the inner-city gangsters, thugs, and hip-hop youth, always cast as the sinister, intimidating villain. As the Hoyas made their way onto the court, the Georgetown band would play the Imperial March (the Darth Vader theme), at which time Edmond was often seen smirking, shaking his head, laughing at, or staring down the opponent. Edmond revered the aggressive tenacity, snarl and swagger the Hoyas played with, so much that when his soldiers were gunned down, they were always buried in Georgetown jerseys.[4]

[edit] The Meeting With Coach Thompson

 

At the height of his empire, Edmond became very friendly with several Hoyas players. When Georgetown University basketball coach (and D.C. native) John Thompson confirmed what was happening, he sent word through his sources to have Edmond meet him at his office at McDonough Gymnasium.

 

When Edmond arrived, Thompson was initially cordial, and informed Edmond that he needed to cease all contacts with his players post haste,[5] specifically John Turner and Alonzo Mourning, both of whom had befriended Edmond.[6] However, Thompson's parting words to Edmond were that Edmond would face serious consequences if he did not stay away from his players.[7] It is believed that Thompson is the only person to stand up to Edmond without consequence,[8] initially causing some shock and surprise that there was no reprisal against Thompson for standing up to Edmond.

[edit] Arrest, Trial, and Conviction

 

Edmond was arrested in 1989 at the age of 24. His arrest and subsequent trial were widely covered by local and national media. Judicial officials, fearful of reprisals from members of Edmond's gang, imposed unprecedented security during the trial. Jurors' identities were kept secret before, during, and after trial, and their seating area was enclosed in bulletproof glass. The presiding judge even barred the public from the trial in an effort to protect the jury.[3] Edmond was jailed at the maximum security facility at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia and flown to the Federal Court House in Washington, D.C. by helicopter each day for his trial. Authorities took this unusual step due to heightened fears of an armed escape attempt. This gang was believed to have committed over 400 murders not including the attempted murder of a local pastor, the Reverend Mr. Bynum, who was shot 12 times during an anti-drug march in his Orleans Place neighborhood.[9]

 

Edmond was convicted of numerous federal violations: (1) Engaging in a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, under 21 U.S.C. §§ 848(b), 853 (Count One); (2) Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute more than 5 kilograms of cocaine and more than 50 grams of cocaine base, under 21 U.S.C. § 846 (Count Two); (3) Unlawfully employing a person under 18 years of age, under 21 U.S.C. § 845b (Count Five); (4) Interstate travel in aid of racketeering, under 18 U.S.C. § 1952(a) (Count Eleven); (5) Unlawful use of a communications facility, under 21 U.S.C. § 843(b) (Counts Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen, and Eighteen).[9]

 

On September 17, 1990, the District Court imposed sentences of mandatory life without parole on Count One, life without parole on Counts Two and Five, 60 months on Count Eleven, and 48 months on Counts Fourteen, Fifteen, Sixteen, and Eighteen. Edmond's sentences were to run concurrently.[9]

 

Edmond was eventually sentenced to life in prison without parole. His mother, Constance "Bootsie" Perry,[10] was sentenced to 14 years in prison for participating in his criminal enterprise. Several of his sisters and cousins also received sentences.[9]

 

Rayful continued to deal after being incarcerated in Lewisburg, PA federal prison. He hooked up with Dixon Dario and Osvaldo “Chiqui” (pronounced Cheeky) Trujillo-Blanco (son of Griselda "Godmother" Trujillo Blanco) who shared the same cell block with him. Rayful was setting up deals between D.C. area traffickers and his Colombian connect (Dario and Blanco) while incarcerated.(2) In 1996, Edmond and another drug dealer from Atlanta, named Lowe, were convicted after conducting drug business from a federal prison phone. Edmond received an additional 30-year sentence. Edmond's case is one of the most notorious abuses of such phone privileges,[11] and an embarrassment for the Bureau of Prisons. In an interview with the Bureau of Prisons, Edmond said he had spent several hours every day on the telephone, occasionally using two lines simultaneously to conduct his drug business.

 

Following this conviction, Edmond became a government informant, the reasons for which remain unknown and speculation to this day. Some speculate it was to secure his mother's release from prison, however his mother was arrested in the original indictments and spent time in prison and Edmond did not become an informant during this time. Edmond is still incarcerated but is now part of the United States Federal Witness Protection Program and his place of incarceration is confidential.

[anything goes]

Jim Jones, no not that one...

One of those who died at the nearby airstrip was Leo Ryan, who remains the only Congressman murdered in the line of duty in the history of the United States.[1]

 

A friend of my parents worked for Leo Ryan and was part of the search party that went to Guyana, she was shot 5 times and left for dead on the air strip. She survived and now she's in congress - http://www.jackieforcongress.com/about/

 

Cool Story Br0

[!@#$%]

^damn.

that's nuts. reminds me, i worked with a guy who was from uruguay, and knew most of the people portrayed in that movie alive.

 

still, jim jones, on some other level shit.

i dunno if he's a classic criminal so much as a cult of personality.

crazy cults are a diff topic imo, that shit requires [at least] an element of insanity.

[Smacky636]

^damn.

that's nuts. reminds me, i worked with a guy who was from uruguay, and knew most of the people portrayed in that movie alive.

 

still, jim jones, on some other level shit.

i dunno if he's a classic criminal so much as a cult of personality.

crazy cults are a diff topic imo, that shit requires [at least] an element of insanity.

 

what would your definition of classic criminal be?

 

i know there have been some fucked up cult things like this, like Waco, for instance. But, 900 american civilians rallies the 9/11 attacks for most civilian deaths. Also, the only time a Congressman was murdered in the line of duty.

 

i think it has some significance, on the classic criminal role. maybe, i'm wrong but what do you think?

[!@#$%]

oh sure, it's just a matter of opinion.

like i wouldn't consider that guy who had that comet cult a classic criminal

or charles manson

though they probably are "classic american criminals" to most people

i guess it's the manipulation of people's psyches that almost transcends crime and goes into some mind-control or mysticism type shit, beyond just breaking the law, these guys were breaking from society completely.

like i don't consider mormons who are polygamists classic criminals, though a foreigner or sociologist might also lump those in with the cultists.

 

i guess what i had in mind was crime that was unique, or original, or maybe required a tremendous amount of thought, planning, intelligence, fortitude to commit

and even better when the criminal is never caught.

even better than that when they can't even solve the crime.

like criminal masterminds i guess, but when people really fuck the system

 

it's hard not to put bernie madoff in there, except the guy is such a colossal douchebag.

 

it's cool with me though, put all those fuckers in here

we have a serial killer thread around here somewhere, i dunno, for this one i guess i was thinking more like heists or kidnappings (like patty hearst or lindberg)

but shit, throw all the crime you want in here, it still makes for an interesting read.

[Smacky636]

Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff - 'Preme'

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McGriff

 

 

 

Kenneth "Supreme" McGriff (Born September 19, 1960) is a convicted American drug trafficker and organized crime figure.

 

McGriff came to prominence in the early 1980s when he formed his own crack distributing organization which he called the Supreme Team based in the South Jamaica section of Queens, New York. Under McGriff’s leadership, the gang’s numbers swelled to the hundreds and came to control the crack-cocaine trade in the Baisley Park Houses, the neighborhood where McGriff was raised.

 

In 1987, McGriff was arrested following a joint state and federal investigation and in 1989 pleaded guilty to engaging in a Continuing Criminal Enterprise. He was sentenced to 12 years’ incarceration. McGriff was released from prison on parole in early 1994 after serving approximately seven years of his sentence. He was sent back to prison on parole violations by year's end, and served another 2½ years’ incarceration before being released in 1997.

 

McGriff is alleged to have had a hand in the murder of Run D.M.C. member Jam Master Jay, and was convicted of ordering the killing of Mobb Deep affiliate E-Moneybags (real name Eric Smith)[1]. Federal authorities also accused him in connection with the attempted murder of 50 Cent[2]. Persistent rumors suggest that McGriff felt 50 Cent had exposed too much of the drug kingpin in Jamaica, Queens and others involved in the drug trade through the lyrics of his song "Ghetto Qu'ran" released in 2000.

 

On February 1, 2007 McGriff was convicted of murder-for-hire at a Federal court at the Eastern District of New York on charges he paid $50,000 to have two rivals gunned down (Eric Smith and "Big Nose" Troy Singleton) in 2001[3]. The jury deliberated for five days before finding McGriff guilty of murder conspiracy and drug trafficking. On February 9, 2007, the same jury sentenced McGriff to life in prison. Throughout this case he was being defended by a court appointed attorney because nearly all of his assets had been seized.

 

McGriff is serving his life sentence at the ADX Florence supermax prison in Colorado.[4]

[Smacky636]

it's hard getting the names of ppl fho acually got away, ya know

[Inappropriate_Responder]

Whenever I start going into a swirling pool of regret, depression, and loneliness...

 

I bounce back by doing tons of little things that make me feel like a boss in my own little world..

 

1: Beat off three times in a row, its tough.. but you feel like a champ.

 

2: Whenever you have something to throw away, try to throw it in the trash from a far distance and when you get it in on the first try yell "LABRON JAMES"

 

3: Play online video games and pwn some noobs

 

4: Make sure you own a pet that in which to snuggles

 

LAST RESORT!: If none of these things work, if everything is unbearable... think about killing people, in the most brutal and unspeakable ways you can possibly imagine... then beat off to it, then feel bad afterward and cry into a pillow... This usually calms me down...

[!@#$%]

it's hard getting the names of ppl fho acually got away, ya know

 

HAHAHA good point

but we know about the crimes, just not the people

 

and the thread IS classic crime, not classic criminal

 

just mincing words ;)

[Smacky636]

Julius n Ethel

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

 

 

 

Ethel Greenglass Rosenberg (September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) and Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) were American communists who were executed in 1953 for conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges related to passing information about the atomic bomb to the Soviet Union. This was the first execution of civilians for espionage in United States history.[1]

 

Since the execution, decoded Soviet cables, codenamed VENONA, have supported courtroom testimony that Julius acted as a courier and recruiter for the Soviets, but doubts remain about the level of Ethel's involvement.[2][3] The decision to execute the Rosenbergs was, and still is, controversial. The New York Times, in an editorial on the 50th anniversary of the execution (June 19, 2003) wrote, "The Rosenbergs case still haunts American history, reminding us of the injustice that can be done when a nation gets caught up in hysteria."[4] The other atomic spies that were caught by the FBI offered confessions and were not executed. Ethel's brother, David Greenglass, who supplied documents to Julius from Los Alamos, served 10 years of his 15 year sentence.[5] Harry Gold, who identified Greenglass, served 15 years in Federal prison as the courier for Greenglass and the British scientist, Klaus Fuchs.[6] Morton Sobell, who was tried with the Rosenbergs, served 17 years and 9 months.[7] In 2008, Sobell admitted he was a spy and confirmed Julius Rosenberg was "in a conspiracy that delivered to the Soviets classified military and industrial information and what the American government described as the secret to the atomic bomb."[8]

[Smacky636]

HAHAHA good point

but we know about the crimes, just not the people

 

and the thread IS classic crime, not classic criminal

 

just mincing words ;)

 

point taken.

 

in this type of forum, i'd figure more people would reply. are these cats schooled? maybe we gotta open up the window for more flow?

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D. B. Cooper, the man who started the thread...

 

 

D. B. Cooper is the name attributed to a man who hijacked a Boeing 727 aircraft in the United States on November 24, 1971, received $200,000[1] in ransom, and parachuted from the plane. The name he used to board the plane was Dan Cooper, but through a later press miscommunication, he became known as D.B. Cooper. Despite hundreds of leads through the years, no conclusive evidence has ever surfaced regarding Cooper's true identity or whereabouts, and the bulk of the money has never been recovered. Several theories offer competing explanations of what happened after his famed jump, but the F.B.I. believes that he did not survive.[2]

 

The nature of Cooper's escape and the uncertainty of his fate continue to intrigue people. The Cooper case (code-named "Norjak" by the F.B.I.)[3] is the only unsolved U.S. aircraft hijacking,[4] and one of the few such cases anywhere in the world, along with Malaysia Airlines Flight 653.

 

The Cooper case has baffled government and private investigators for decades, with countless leads turning into dead ends. As late as March 2008, the F.B.I. thought it might have had a breakthrough when children unearthed a parachute within the bounds of Cooper's probable jump site near the town of Amboy, Washington.[5] Experts later determined that it did not belong to the hijacker.

 

Despite the case's enduring lack of evidence, a few significant clues have arisen. In late 1978 a placard containing instructions on how to lower the aft stairs of a 727, later confirmed to be from the rear stairway of the plane from which Cooper jumped, was found just a few flying minutes north of Cooper's projected drop zone. In February 1980 on the banks of the Columbia River, eight-year-old Brian Ingram found $5,880 in decaying $20 bills, which proved to be part of the original ransom.[6]

 

In October 2007, the F.B.I. claimed that it had obtained a partial DNA profile of Cooper from the tie he left on the hijacked plane.[7] On December 31, 2007, the F.B.I. revived the case by publishing never-before-seen composite sketches and fact sheets online in an attempt to trigger memories that could possibly identify Cooper. In a press release, the F.B.I. reiterated that it does not believe Cooper survived the jump, but expressed an interest in ascertaining his identity.[7][8]

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haha open the window on em

[Smacky636]

JEFFERY DAHMER!!!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

 

 

Jeffrey Lionel Dahmer (May 21, 1960 – November 28, 1994) was an American serial killer and sex offender. Dahmer murdered 17 men and boys – many of whom were of African or Asian descent – between 1978 and 1991, with the majority of the murders occurring between 1987 and 1991. His murders were particularly gruesome, involving rape, torture, dismemberment, necrophilia and cannibalism. On November 28, 1994, he was beaten to death by an inmate at the Columbia Correctional Institution, where he had been incarcerated.