Mercer Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Again, getting patted down is unnecessary, guaranteed you can get explosives through by keistering them. People are keistering fucking knives around in prison every second of the day. Also, it might be OK for you to get exposed to a scanner if you fly a couple times a year, or get to skip it because your in congress or take private jets. If you flew regularly on commercial airlines, like a lot of people have to a couple times a week or more your opinion would change. Nobody wants another 911 and you're an idiot for assuming anyone against this shit would. There is absolutely no way pat downs or scans guarantee another hijacking wont happen, or explosives won't make it on board somehow. Personally I think Israels approach is much more effective considering their track record and it just makes more sense. In a way, every time a person is groped, made uncomfortable, covered in piss, or develops a brain tumor from repeated scanning terrorists win and we lose. We are helping them diminish our own quality of life while they need only to put minimal effort into it. I mean we could just be given body cavity exams then stripped naked and put into prison cells on the plane if your only concern is "safety". Being patted down really doesn't faze me since I'm used to it, but I think most people aren't, and shouldn't have to be in a free country. I don't want my Mom or any other female close to me to have their breast publicly exposed or touched regularly for "safety concerns". Fuck, I don't even want a semitard working security to have to kneel down and touch balls all day, that must really suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Menstruating woman subjected to TSA grope because panty-liner obscured her vulva on pornoscanner Cory Doctorow at 11:49 PM Wednesday, Nov 24, 2010 A self-described "rule follower" went through an airport pornoscanner wearing a panty-liner (she was menstruating). Because the hygienic item obscured the screener's view of her vagina vulva, she was made to endure a humiliating fondling, "so invasive that I was left crying and dealing with memories that I thought had been dealt with years ago of prior sexual assaults." These new scans are so horrible that if you are wearing something unusual (like a piece of cloth on your panties) then you will be subjected to a search where a woman repeatedly has to check your "groin" while another woman watches on (two in my case - they were training in a new girl - awesome). So please, please, tell the ladies not to wear their liners at the airport (I didn't even have an insert in). I'm a strong, confident woman; I'm an Army vet (which is why those camo liners crack me up), I work full-time and go to graduate school full-time, I have a wonderful husband, and I don't take any nonsense from anyone. I don't dramatize, and I don't exaggerate. I'm trying to give you a sense of who I am so you won't think that this is a plea for attention, or a jumping on the bandwagon about the recent TSA proposed boycott. I just don't want another woman to have to go through the "patting down" because she didn't know that her glad-rag would be a matter of national security." There are plenty of TSA apologists who say that objections to the TSA's invasive "pat-downs" are just whining from people don't want to go through the backscatter radiation machines -- we bring it on ourselves. But as we've seen, anything out of the ordinary -- wearing a fabric pad during menstruation, artificial limbs, medical prostheses, etc -- can send you off for a date with Doctor Jellyfinger, Junior G-Man extraordinaire. By declaring war on the unexpected, the TSA has set in motion a policy that makes the lives of cancer sufferers, disabled people, people who've had major surgery, and many others who're already having a hard time even harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ink face Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 moral of the story; don't make the metal detector go off in the first place, it's really not too difficult to make sure you don't have anything on that will set it off. from what i've read, most of the folks getting the feeldown or xray, get it cause they failed the metal detector. i could be wrong though as i haven't been to the airport since the new policy started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..romero.. Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 did this shit just recently pick up or something because i was flying this summer and honestly i didnt have alot of problems.i got a pat down and that shit was more or less what it is like to get frisked by a cop,people say its a dehumanizing experience or someshit but honeslty it didnt seem at all that super invasive like the news keeps saying..so i havent experienced any of this shit as of yet.im thinking alot of this is hyperbole but idk..just my thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..romero.. Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 TSA pat-down leaves traveler covered in urine http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40291856/ns/travel-news/?GT1=43001 wow.i take back what i said.when did this shit start? because i didnt see anything of this magnitude going on.this shit is rediculous.the likelyhood of a small child being involved in a terrorist plot is ridiculously small.id venture to say that its less than a thousandth or 1 percent or someshit.use some fucking judgement.i would honestly risk having a motherfucker run my flight into a wall than to have to sit and watch small children get assaulted and have disabled folks have to remove prostetics and shit.this shit could have been handled alot more delicately and alot more intelligently. fuck you casek.everytime i open one of your threads i get super heated.you make me rage haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qawee Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 Again, getting patted down is unnecessary, guaranteed you can get explosives through by keistering them. People are keistering fucking knives around in prison every second of the day. Also, it might be OK for you to get exposed to a scanner if you fly a couple times a year, or get to skip it because your in congress or take private jets. If you flew regularly on commercial airlines, like a lot of people have to a couple times a week or more your opinion would change. Nobody wants another 911 and you're an idiot for assuming anyone against this shit would. There is absolutely no way pat downs or scans guarantee another hijacking wont happen, or explosives won't make it on board somehow. Personally I think Israels approach is much more effective considering their track record and it just makes more sense. In a way, every time a person is groped, made uncomfortable, covered in piss, or develops a brain tumor from repeated scanning terrorists win and we lose. We are helping them diminish our own quality of life while they need only to put minimal effort into it. I mean we could just be given body cavity exams then stripped naked and put into prison cells on the plane if your only concern is "safety". Being patted down really doesn't faze me since I'm used to it, but I think most people aren't, and shouldn't have to be in a free country. I don't want my Mom or any other female close to me to have their breast publicly exposed or touched regularly for "safety concerns". Fuck, I don't even want a semitard working security to have to kneel down and touch balls all day, that must really suck. I concur with this. When you go to get an xray at the dentist they put a big lead vest over your torso so every part of your body isn't getting bombarded with this radiation, and now the government is saying "just walk through this gigantic xray machine, its no biggie", sorry but I don't buy that. And the pat downs are not like police on the street digging in your pockets and patting you down, checking you for weapons, they are literally feeling you up. If someone wants to get some shit through they just have to cheek it, so I just see all of this as a further assault on peoples 4th amendment rights which started with the patriot act, now being furthered by the Obama administration. How far is too far for you guys who are saying "deal with it"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~KRYLON2~ Posted November 26, 2010 Share Posted November 26, 2010 if you don't like it don't fly, the best way to hurt them is to not give them your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 26, 2010 Author Share Posted November 26, 2010 people are too fucking sensitive. You really cant walk thru a scanner? Talk about insecure. I got some advice for them. You dont like it dont fly. Grow the fuck up and stay out of jail there should be two planes. one for people who actually want to arrive at their destination in one piece and they other one for people who dont want anybody to touch their balls found this: If you listen to the media they will have you believe that everyone who has flown anywhere is damn near being striped searched in a dark dank room with a single light bulb hanging from the ceiling in front of an audience. The truth of the matter is very few people have to go through the pat down process, we cannot have it both ways either we want to be safe or we do not. I am not saying the procedure should not be refined but frankly in order to get from point A to point B alive and safe it is a price we as Americans are just going to have to pay. We are no guilty until proven innocent. "those who would give away liberty for security deserve neither" The TSA has yet to foil a plot or capture a terrorist trying to blow up a plane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM4RT Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 A short history of airport security: We screen for guns and bombs, so the terrorists use box cutters. We confiscate box cutters and corkscrews, so they put explosives in their sneakers. We screen footwear, so they try to use liquids. We confiscate liquids, so they put PETN bombs in their underwear. We roll out full-body scanners, even though they wouldn’t have caught the Underwear Bomber, so they put a bomb in a printer cartridge. We ban printer cartridges over 16 ounces — the level of magical thinking here is amazing — and they’re going to do something else. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2010/11/22/do-body-scanners-make-us-safer/a-waste-of-money-and-time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 And where the fuck do all those deadly bic lighters and life threatening toenail clippers go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_casek Posted November 27, 2010 Author Share Posted November 27, 2010 And where the fuck do all those deadly bic lighters and life threatening toenail clippers go? Ebay. http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=NTSA&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ink face Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 you can still bring lighters on planes, i always bring my zippo, they haven't tripped on it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pet Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noam Chomsky Posted December 5, 2010 Share Posted December 5, 2010 I always get the big black tsa guard with the grin on his face... fuck you mr. presidente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3 eh? Posted December 6, 2010 Share Posted December 6, 2010 Leave the grannies, nuns, 7 year old girls going to disney world the fuck alone, and start PROFILING!!! Political correctness is killing us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesbian Fisting Posted December 19, 2010 Share Posted December 19, 2010 http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/loaded-gun-slips-past-tsa-screeners/story?id=12412458 Its been successful so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Mamerro Posted December 24, 2010 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I mean, nobody's really holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to fly and get scanned, right? I believe I've heard that argument before on different topics round these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cunt sauce Posted December 29, 2010 Share Posted December 29, 2010 I mean, nobody's really holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to fly and get scanned, right? I believe I've heard that argument before on different topics round these parts. yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelofdeath Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 that is a very faulty argument you two are trying to pin on believers in non-initiation of violence. the small detail you left out is that the federal government has monopolized airport security forcing air lines to use the services of the TSA and violate the rights of everyone that chooses to fly. it is quite obvious customers dont want to be groped and scanned. it is also quite obvious the market responds to consumer demand. if we had a free market in air line security would some air lines do silly things? sure. what happens to them? they go out of business. if people do indeed feel safer getting sexually assaulted before boarding an airplane, im sure the market has proven its self to be dynamic enough to allow people the choice to be groped before entering an air craft and the 99.9% of the rest of us will be happy to not use such services. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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