MAR Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Let's hear your opinions. I feel that its relevant in the sense that it brings together the world, and that it empowers the third world countries but I think it needs to be restructured for modern times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UPS! Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 When was it ever relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM4RT Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 Yes. The world has changed since WW2. The UN requires reform to ensure it still has influence and power. It still serves an important purpose in peace keeping, disaster relief, and humanitarian issues. It gives small countries, minorities, etc. a voice. And probably most importantly, it allows for open communication and dialogue between nations. I think the world would be worse off without the UN. I know that statement is hard to prove or quantify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIPS Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 The UN is an expensive joke with no power. It gives the impression of giving power to the weak but at the end does nothing. US attacking Irak without the consent of the UN, Darfour, Burma, Iran, Chechnia, Balkans etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Pretty much agree with RIPS. In the last 7 years or so, the UN has really shown to be ineffectual on a number of conflicts around the globe. One example being during the Israel-Lebanon-Hezbollah crisis in 2006, in which there were UN posts in Southern Lebanon that did absolutely nothing as Hezbollah kidnapped Israeli troops and lobbed missiles in to Israel. Same with the US ignoring the Security Council veto on invading Iraq. No punishments of any kind seemed to be imposed on the US. It seemed pretty effective in the early beginning with the Korean War conflict. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 I think the UN really should be focused on empowering the third world, in particular Africa, through microcredit instead of funding the countries dictators directly. I think they are ineffectual in their peacekeeping efforts and frankly at times they worsen the situation. I remember hearing something about UN peacekeeping forces contributing the a rise in prostitution in the countries they are in. Overall, i think it would make sense to restructure the UN to be a humanitarian force rather than policing entity. I doubt any of the nations involved would be interested because helping people doesnt make your dick look bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ginger Bread Man Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 the US has publicly and repeatedly gone against UN orders thereby undermining its' authority. once anyone defies authority and nothing is done others are sure to follow suite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WORDISM45 Posted October 27, 2010 Share Posted October 27, 2010 The UN is only relevant in addressing global security insofar as it supports the US agenda. As we have seen when the UN does not go along with the US in security matters the US will act unilaterally, there can be no punitive action taken by the UN against the US because the UN is only powerful when it acts as a conduit for US power. In humanitarian and aid areas it is probably relevant. It is only relevant in security matters in the way it confers legitimacy in confronting those that act against US interests, IE most people will think if the UN imposes sanctions on a 'rogue state' like DPRK or Iran then they must deserve it, where as people are a lot more skeptical if the US acts unilaterally in the same manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonis Posted November 3, 2010 Share Posted November 3, 2010 it's not like some countries even care or listen.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted November 4, 2010 Share Posted November 4, 2010 just look up the foundations of the un................what were there initial goals. and they're ambition for the future.... .its called professional corruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted November 5, 2010 Share Posted November 5, 2010 PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — Researchers should determine whether United Nations peacekeepers were the source of a deadly outbreak of cholera in Haiti, two public health experts, including a U.N. official, said Wednesday. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that the strain of cholera that has killed at least 442 people the past three weeks matches strains found in South Asia. The CDC, World Health Organization and United Nations say it’s not possible to pinpoint the source and investigating further would distract from efforts to fight the disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 The question is problematic in the first place. Are you talking about the WFP, UNESCO, UNSC, UNGA, etc. etc.? Some parts of the UN do a lot of good work, other parts like the UNSC are a power playground. I gather you are talking about the UN Security Council and if it is irrelevant why are countries like India, Brazil, etc. trying to get a seat there? Why is China blocking resolutions on DPRK and Sudan, why is the US blocking resolutions on Isael, why is Russia blocking resolutions on Iran? IF it was irrelevant none of this stuff would happen as countries would not waste their time. It's not irrelevant, it's just irrelevant to the original cause, which was to stop wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george jetson Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 seeing how much they helped during events like those in rwanda, liberia, sierra leonne, sudan etc. i cant say im very stoked on the UN. and yes the whole security council thing is a complete joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAR Posted December 21, 2010 Author Share Posted December 21, 2010 It's more irrelevant in the sense that it has little to no power to stop wars. I see it as a place for countries to posture and play games. And yeah the UNSC is kind of a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 "The Bush (Sr) Administration, would like to make the U.N. a cornerstone of its plans to construct a New World Order." - Time Magazine, September 17, 1990 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Oh god, here goes that stupid NWO order shit again. For fuck sake, read about the global balance of power, you have no idea of how badly you are barking up the wrong tree by quoting Bush after the fall of the USSR. However, I am not at all surprised that you are. Mental pollution..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christo-f Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It's more irrelevant in the sense that it has little to no power to stop wars. I see it as a place for countries to posture and play games. And yeah the UNSC is kind of a joke. Whilst in pursuit of its original purpose the UNSC is not at all relevant don't be too quick to write it off, lots of serious shit still goes on there and it is where the balance of power is played out in the open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wearekilluminati Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^dude please shut the fuck up..............you have no relevance in geo political affairs..........please shut the fuck up...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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