Florida Church Plans 'Burn a Quran' Day on 9/11

[lord_casek]

I also take offense to ZGEG. I defend Christians regularly. I also know what this country was founded upon and would defend anyone of any faith and their rights.

 

Sure, we're allowed to burn books and flags. That is our first amendment right. However, this is simply retarded and aims only to inflame people who are Muslim and may not have had any bad feelings towards Americans prior to this act.

 

I hope that people will protest this book burning.

 

 

Edit: I'm only guessing, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Muslims probably won't burn Bibles to protest this.

[ZGEG]

Well, wouldn't that be a retarded thing to say then?

 

 

Building a pray center is people going about doing their thing.

 

Burning a holy book is an aggressive insult to a religion and it's people.

 

 

 

Great comparison, Einstein.....

 

I am disappointed... maybe it's because english isn't my mother tongue but if you the almighty Ch.O Wiseman can't understand that this is just a symbols battle in a world domination war.

 

And why should i consider this book as holy? That's exactly what I was referring to in my previous message.

 

Maybe you can explain to me the great muslims integration success happening in every country that have or had a great tolerance history like Holland , UK , France etc where all what they ask is segregation from non-muslims.For example they ask to be burried separately from non-muslims when we know that for most of europeans countries it has taken centuries to obtain the cemetery peace between catholics and protestants. Now in France there is big fast-food chain "Quick" which has decided to only sell halal meat. And the reaction of muslims was like great, non-muslims can eat it and we do not have to eat "their" meat. So why should I enjoy to eat their meat?

 

I am for tolerance but not with intolerant people. And i am tired to hear all their bullshits about how their religion is a peaceful one and that they can not kill other muslims when we see that in Pakistan even during the floods there are massive bombings and killings. You will tell me that they do not consider muslims minorities has muslims.

 

I have nothing against people who do their things on their side and let me do my things on my side but when they start to tell me how i should behave i can not accept it.

[boost™]

^^^^^

 

thats utter stupidity. your statements color you as someone who feels victimized, and as a result you cling to silly generalizations and concepts which were not formed using your own intellect but the shapeless and uninformed thoughts of a larger collective of TOTAL FUCKING RETARDS SUCH AS YOURSELF. you even speak in a manner which suggests you are but one of many sheep. "what we need to do" what about what you need to do? you need to educate yourself and think on your own.

 

 

i have never ever had muslim person knock on my door and bother me, although christians have done it many times.

 

i have never had a muslim try to hand me a pamplet about sin. i have had countless christians try to give me pamplets.

 

i have never seen a muslim billboard talking about "do this or your soul will be damned". however there are billboards in every city in the united states with "go to jesus" or "repent" or some other type of christianity ads.

 

there is even highly prolific christian graffiti. the "jesus saves/trust jesus" campaign is massive and one of the most prolific graffiti campaigns to ever exist.

 

you need to wake the fuck up man. im not pro christian or pro islam. im pro awareness.

 

Shut your bitch ass up, im telling it is based on my experiences and what i see. Muslims around my area selfish as fuck, and greedy thats MY OPINION based on MY EXPERIENCES. You may disagree but i can give the slightest of fuck. I've never seen jesus saves or trust jesus tagged up on the street rofl the only time i saw that was in New Orleans when Katrina hit. You see billboards like that in the city because this is fucking UNITED STATES you are most likely either a. atheist b. christian or c. catholic (there are more but these are the main ones).

[ZGEG]

I also take offense to ZGEG. I defend Christians regularly. I also know what this country was founded upon and would defend anyone of any faith and their rights.

 

Sure, we're allowed to burn books and flags. That is our first amendment right. However, this is simply retarded and aims only to inflame people who are Muslim and may not have had any bad feelings towards Americans prior to this act.

 

I hope that people will protest this book burning.

 

 

Edit: I'm only guessing, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Muslims probably won't burn Bibles to protest this.

 

No, they will just burn churchs and kill some christians

[ZGEG]

^Isn't France turning in to an Islamic State?

 

Not only France but the whole Europe.

[ZGEG]

and for christo-f i am sure you can read french so i recommend you this book

 

[christo-f]

I am disappointed... maybe it's because english isn't my mother tongue but if you the almighty Ch.O Wiseman can't understand that this is just a symbols battle in a world domination war.

 

And why should i consider this book as holy? That's exactly what I was referring to in my previous message.

 

Maybe you can explain to me the great muslims integration success happening in every country that have or had a great tolerance history like Holland , UK , France etc where all what they ask is segregation from non-muslims.For example they ask to be burried separately from non-muslims when we know that for most of europeans countries it has taken centuries to obtain the cemetery peace between catholics and protestants. Now in France there is big fast-food chain "Quick" which has decided to only sell halal meat. And the reaction of muslims was like great, non-muslims can eat it and we do not have to eat "their" meat. So why should I enjoy to eat their meat?

 

I am for tolerance but not with intolerant people. And i am tired to hear all their bullshits about how their religion is a peaceful one and that they can not kill other muslims when we see that in Pakistan even during the floods there are massive bombings and killings. You will tell me that they do not consider muslims minorities has muslims.

 

I have nothing against people who do their things on their side and let me do my things on my side but when they start to tell me how i should behave i can not accept it.

 

World domination war, huh?

 

You've been polarised by the minority and now you're just dribbling shit.

[ZGEG]

For a guy who spend hours to write interesting threads about Iran and other subjects i am a little surprised that you do not realise that this war is going on.

 

Yeah because there is the silent peaceful majority we always hear about i will believe it when i will see it.

 

[abcs]

cheap fame.

The leader of the church probably thinks this is a good way to get paid.

Any publicity is good publicity and all that. I could care less if they burn

some korans. It would be a welcome event if somehow the ash from their

little book burning manages to ignite the church

I rate religious people, pond scum, and stupid people about the same

[christo-f]

Iran is far less to do about Islam than it is to do with national power, likewise AQ and your Caucuses Emirates, Taliban/Quetta Shura, etc. etc...

 

There is no clash of civilisations in the sense that it is an organised push in anyway. The original thesis doesn't even state that. People like to call it post-modernism or whatever shit but it's just an element of globalisation. Beliefs and cultures clash not due to conquest but more a clash of culture/ignorances as a result of mass people movement.

 

Europe is copping a lot due to post-colonialism and geography. It's a speed hump, it will smoothen out in a few generations. People polarise out of fear and anger. Familiraisation overcomes fear and weariness and loss will overcome anger. Prosperity will overcome all. Plus, russia will scare everyone back to state against state rather than civilisation against civilisation soon.

 

 

 

Sorry to get all crossfire on y'all, back to abuse and humour now.....

[lord_casek]

Writes Ron Paul:

 

A professed Christian pastor in Gainesville, Florida, Terry Jones, plans to burn copies of the Quran on 9/11. He indicts all Islam for 9/11 and argues that it is a hate-driven religion. He’s convinced he’s on God’s side, even though he is getting little support from other Christians, who believe that Jesus is the Prince of Peace.

 

General David Petraeus, our military commander in Afghanistan, strongly condemned Mr. Jones’ plan, arguing it would be provocative, make his fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan more difficult, and further jeopardize the lives of American soldiers.

 

I agree! To blame of all Muslims for the atrocities of 9/11 only makes things worse – especially since it wasn’t the Taliban of Afghanistan that committed the atrocities on 9/11. Under Jones’ warped logic, we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, since 15 of the 19 suicide bombers came from that country.

 

But while I am pleased to see General Petraeus recognize the danger of one type of incitement, he unfortunately fails to see the whole picture and understand that our policies of torture, targeted assassination, invasion of Muslim countries, and unintended infliction of civilian casualties in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are also provocative. Pictures of victims of torture as well as innocent people killed by drones and stray bombs, are every bit as bad as burning the Quran.

 

In some ways, what Jones is doing may be minor compared to the resentment toward us as a consequence of what our government has done to thousands of innocent victims.

 

As I have said time and time again, Osama bin Laden wins by ‘proving’ that America is an enemy of Islam and has an occupation agenda in the Middle East. And we continue to walk into his trap and hand him up his best recruitment tool in his efforts to provoke hatred and terrorism against the United States.

 

If we don’t want to incite radical Islamists, we need to stop these un-needed wars. It is high time we came to our senses, brought our troops home to defend our country, and pursued a Constitutional, pro-American foreign policy.

[viperface]

russia will scare everyone back to state against state rather than civilisation against civilisation soon.

 

Putin?

[ZGEG]

INTERPOL issues global alert for increased terror threat if Koran burning in US goes ahead as planned

 

LYON, France – INTERPOL has today issued a global alert to its 188 member countries following the request of Pakistan’s Minister of the Interior, and its own determination, that if the proposed Koran burning by a pastor in the US goes ahead as planned, there is a strong likelihood that violent attacks on innocent people would follow.

 

Minister Rehman Malik personally contacted INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald K. Noble to engage the world police body’s assistance in warning law enforcement of the increased terrorist threat if plans reported by the media to burn the holy book were carried out on Saturday’s anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

 

“One of INTERPOL’s primary functions is to prevent crime, and given that we have been made aware of a significant threat to public safety – an assessment which we share – it is our duty to ensure that we pass this information on to law enforcement agencies around the globe so that they can take appropriate measures,” said INTERPOL Secretary General Ronald K. Noble.

 

“Although there are currently no specific details as to what forms of terror attacks would follow, what is clear is if the Koran burning goes ahead as planned, there will be tragic consequences, ones which may well claim the lives of many innocent people,” added Mr Noble.

 

INTERPOL has circulated Pakistan’s warning and its own alert to all National Central Bureaus around the world, and also has requested that any country receiving information about a potential threat to public safety contact INTERPOL’s General Secretariat headquarters immediately.

 

“September 11 is a day when the world should come together to redouble our efforts to prevent and fight terrorism, not a day when any individual, especially an American, should engage in provocative acts that will give terrorists propaganda intended to convert September 11 from a day of remembrance, to one of recruitment for terrorists and others inspired to attack the US and other western targets,” stressed Secretary General Noble.

 

“Pakistan’s actions in contacting INTERPOL to ensure that potentially vital information in helping police identify and prevent any form of terror attack is circulated worldwide are to be commended, and the reaction of INTERPOL and others around the world in response to this planned hateful act should be seen by the Muslim community as strong evidence that this man and his small congregation stand alone,” concluded Secretary General Noble.

 

In addition to circulating any related information to NCBs, staff at INTERPOL’s 24-hour Command and Co-ordination Centre at the General Secretariat Headquarters will be placed on alert and be asked to treat with urgency any information related to potential criminal conduct linked to the burning of the Koran.

[ZGEG]

Iran is far less to do about Islam than it is to do with national power, likewise AQ and your Caucuses Emirates, Taliban/Quetta Shura, etc. etc...

 

Really?

 

[Decyferon]

watch the old pastor guy is going to be the one saying "I told you so..."

 

Muslims are trying to spread their religion EVERYWHERE by ANY MEANS so i do think we need to tell them to back off, but burning a shitty bible isnt quite it...

 

I have never encountered a muslim who has tried to convert me, almost every christian I know has.

 

Muslims dont have issues with christianity, what the muslim world is against is the westernisation of their countries and interference from the west.

 

I really hope some suicide bomber takes this church congregation out.

[Decyferon]

Not only France but the whole Europe.

 

hahah that is the biggest pile of crap I have heard, what evidence do you have to back up that Europe is becoming an islamist state?

 

The UK is most definitely not a islamic state and is nowhere near being one.

 

ZGEG, didn't France just try and ban the wearing of the Burka? Also didn't they say that Muslims aren't supposed to wear headscarves in schools? these are not actions of islamist states.

[Spitfire15]

ZGEG reads conservative blogs about how Europe is being conquered by Sharia law or some faggot canned bull shit any retard islamaphobic would use on Tea Part sign.

 

Go fuck yourself, nigger.

[freakeenyc]

zgeg just to clarify about muslim burials it isnt about segregation, its just muslims have different things done to them, like hindus or jews, etc...and as such regular spots cannot accommodate....

 

this incident and a mosque are incomparable..but i guess they are both legal...like i said before..this nigga has every right to do this..just like the mosque ppl..each of them jsut gotta be prepared for their consequences.

[Decyferon]

While they have the right to do it Freak, what this guy is doing is inflammatory and completely irresponsible. the recreation spot/mosque is nothing in comparison.

 

I generally feel bad nowadays for good quiet christians because there are more bad christians out there than other faiths. Christianity gets its fucking nose out of joint when you start claiming science has the answers then they go and do the same shit to muslims.

 

I am against all organised religion, it is all bollocks to me, but if I go by my own personal experiences of religion then christians are out and out the worst of the lot. Muslims are the collest bunch I have met, because they are generally nicer more relaxed people, but it does depend quite a lot on the individual schooling of your mosque. The local mosque here encourages people to question and search for answers and is very tolerant and moderate, but then there are others that are just as fucked up as this Pastors church.

[100%juice]

Shut your bitch ass up, im telling it is based on my experiences and what i see. Muslims around my area selfish as fuck, and greedy thats MY OPINION based on MY EXPERIENCES. You may disagree but i can give the slightest of fuck. I've never seen jesus saves or trust jesus tagged up on the street rofl the only time i saw that was in New Orleans when Katrina hit. You see billboards like that in the city because this is fucking UNITED STATES you are most likely either a. atheist b. christian or c. catholic (there are more but these are the main ones).

 

shut my bitch ass up? thats a very intelligible argument. how old are you? 14? your intial statement was;

"Muslims are trying to spread their religion EVERYWHERE by ANY MEANS so i do think we need to tell them to back off, but burning a shitty bible isnt quite it..."

 

then after getting visibly upset you let your true feelings out; "based on my experiences and what i see. Muslims around my area selfish as fuck, and greedy"

 

so in essence what youre saying here is, you just dont like muslims. thats fair, and you are entitled to those feelings, however, that has nothing to do with your intial statement of "Muslims are trying to spread their religion EVERYWHERE by ANY MEANS."

 

congrats on getting UMAD and outing yourself as the bigot you are. you should change your screen name to Mel Gibson.

[ZGEG]

hahah that is the biggest pile of crap I have heard, what evidence do you have to back up that Europe is becoming an islamist state?

 

The UK is most definitely not a islamic state and is nowhere near being one.

 

ZGEG, didn't France just try and ban the wearing of the Burka? Also didn't they say that Muslims aren't supposed to wear headscarves in schools? these are not actions of islamist states.

 

indeed they are the actions of a state which is becoming islamist and try to stop it.

[ZGEG]

ZGEG reads conservative blogs about how Europe is being conquered by Sharia law or some faggot canned bull shit any retard islamaphobic would use on Tea Part sign.

 

Go fuck yourself, nigger.

 

hey spitfag go suck mahmoud's smelly cock i don't need to read any blog about the subject

[Decyferon]

indeed they are the actions of a state which is becoming islamist and try to stop it.

 

you must be out of your mind!! Do you actually live in Europe or are you just making this up to get a response?

 

I have yet to see any evidence from you to suggest that anywhere in Europe is becoming an Islamist state.

 

There is nothing wrong with having a multi-cutral society, just because there may be large Muslim communities does not mean they are becoming Islamist states.

 

Until you can actually back up your claims I will continue to think you are talking complete shite.

[ZGEG]

zgeg just to clarify about muslim burials it isnt about segregation, its just muslims have different things done to them, like hindus or jews, etc...and as such regular spots cannot accommodate....

 

this incident and a mosque are incomparable..but i guess they are both legal...like i said before..this nigga has every right to do this..just like the mosque ppl..each of them jsut gotta be prepared for their consequences.

 

i have clearly heard muslim people saying that they can not be buried on the side of non-muslims people. In fact until recently they even send their corpse back to their country to be buried in an islamic country. But now that some "tolerant" authorities allow them to be buried separately i just want to know if in 30 years or the normal limited time they will also clean their graves for the next one. i really don't think so.

[lord_casek]

"My penis, it is in the butt comfortably? Have a baggett

while I speak openly about those nasty Muslims"

[R@ndomH3ro]

This thread is gay as hell

[ZGEG]

you must be out of your mind!! Do you actually live in Europe or are you just making this up to get a response?

 

I have yet to see any evidence from you to suggest that anywhere in Europe is becoming an Islamist state.

 

There is nothing wrong with having a multi-cutral society, just because there may be large Muslim communities does not mean they are becoming Islamist states.

 

Until you can actually back up your claims I will continue to think you are talking complete shite.

 

yeah i live in Europe and the problem is not the multicultural society the problem begin when one community start to try to force the other to apply their rules.

 

And for evidences for example they stopped to make pork based menu in school for children, they can barely celebrate christmas or not at all depending the school etc all what they ask is not integration but segregation.

 

they can live their religion as they want but it is not enough for them.

[ZGEG]

we will see in 10-20 years how the situation will evolve

[Decyferon]

Well I dunno where the hell you live but it cetainly isn't like that anywhere that I have ever lived or visited.

 

But even the things you have mentioned do not have any baring on an Islamist state in Europe, Halal meats and non pork dishes being servedin schools is somethin they have to cater for, just like if you had a wheat allergy they would cater for that. If you are so angry about pork not being served in schools then why blame muslims? why not vegetarians or Jews?

 

In schools they also teach all celebrations, Divali, Eid, Christmas, Hanukka (god knows if that is spelt right) it is all about broadening the childs horizons.

[lord_casek]

This thread is gay as hell

 

 

Nah, it's just you.