the_gooch Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francis buxton Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Abe Vigoda? These guys? These dudes are pretty sweet. twonpoo, most of your posts in this thread make you sound like a crotchety old man who is just bummed out that he didn't get invited to the party. Just say'n. :cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
count chocula Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 drove by this today that is some lulz -- "ginger" :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Spread some rep before giving it to The Gooch... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHATEU Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 I saw the pics yesterday, it happened, and it's probably the reason they didn't hit more space outside the legal wall. true story, they were out after that this was at like 4ish... around the time they started doing the not so legal part of the building... i have a ton of photos but i figured i would just post these... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Abe Vigoda? These guys? These dudes are pretty sweet. twonpoo, most of your posts in this thread make you sound like a crotchety old man who is just bummed out that he didn't get invited to the party. Just say'n. :cool: hey peckerwood. I am a crochy old man, but I dont care about the party, I just wanted to see some classic Barrizzy McGrizzy work. If youre cool with a bunch of tags that 95% of nyc writers CAN DO, then good for you. But I would rather see the Shep wall fixed or the OsGemeos revealed, and that just an honest opinion. You "cool guys" cant tell honest criticism from a hater. Thats the problem today. I like Barry's work and would be hyped to own a piece, but this to me was just boring. Now if it was just a background, that he was gonna do faces on top of, or some big ass screw and shit, then It makes sense as a base. But as is, its just trying to do that whole hipster irony "ohh well your talkin about it so" thing, and after 10 years of seeing the williamsburg trends come and go , the whole ironic thing is played out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 and for the record, I dont know who those four hipsters are you posted but it must be some cool inside thing, cuz at face value you posted 4 hipsters and refered to them being pretty sweet. Thanks but no thanks. i could care less to debate more so have fun with the last word... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfffffffffft Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 twonpoo aint hating.. dude is hella annoying most of the time but gave the most constructive opinion in this whole thread.. and i "like" that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 i see you babe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SerialSkiller Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 your opinion is absolutely fuckin useless twonpoo. you said you would rather see the Fairey wall rather than Twist tags? what the fuck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Here we go with the cool guy opinionometer. do you have a track bike by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheoHuxtable.. Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju_E0GuWY4c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xoXox Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 im not really digging the piece much, i think we all get the point of graffiti. this acts more as a observational statement than a creative compelling image to me. its is cool though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armand hammer Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 what did you just do twonpoo my brains melting..what the fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menaceIIsobriety Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 "okay, so you think you're LOOMIT or something?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 your down with moas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 The wall is cool because it's in everyone's face. Os Gemeos are fucking rad, but they've been rocking a style for years that the public finds entirely non threatening, and doesn't really associate with graffiti. Shepard Fairey falls under a similar umbrella-- fifteen years ago, people were genuinely puzzled and even made uncomfortable by the huge faces he was putting up, but that's obviously changed in the past decade. That most recent mural seemed like it was there so Herbert and Elaine Outoftowner could drive by and say "hey, the Obama guy!" Twist, on the other hand, has been doing shit heavily based in graffiti all along, but has always done so with enough universal appeal that he's managed to create a fanbase in the art world. Now they offered him this wall, (which a lot of New Yorkers very much consider theirs, and a place they expect to see beautiful murals) and instead of trying to expand his fan base by doing the faces that everyone wants to see, he basically said "okay, this is what you get: pure, raw graffiti." Something that most people are still going to find somewhat threatening. Something people aren't going to be able to explain, or understand, or know what to do with. And it's right in their fucking faces, and that's awesome. /coolartanalysisbro 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
count chocula Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 SOLD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I think youre examining it too hard, like an art critic. "mmm, the dicotomy of the wooden beard is strategically placed in the trash can, to symbolize the changing of the seasons." no nigga, they came with red cans and had 4 hours to paint, invited a nyer so nyers dont get TOO mad, then hooked up some ny legends on the wall to show that they "repsect ny", except the RIP they wrote isn't dead. It was JOZ they where thinking of. Josh 5 is alive and kickin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 twonpoo breaks it all down for you in this video right here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 this style , although something I enjoy,doesnt rep graffiti like you say in your argument Harvy. Theres not one bit of "graffiti" in it, other then drips, which is another argument in itself. again,not an inkling of graffiti. this has some covered tags, I think Im speaking for everyone who was anticipating "Barry Mcgee" ( not twist publically anymore by the way, so much for the Graff down your throat approach ) then to see him come to ny and do tags? Im not the only one that said "Big Deal" trust me, I just happen to be the only one in here who bothers to talk about it. To many people are just cheerleaders and cant admit when a guy with a history of amazing work does some boring ass shit and half stepped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I think youre examining it too hard, like an art critic. Hate to tell you, nigga, but when you're coming on a website to discuss and criticize art... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 twonpoo breaks it all down for you in this video right here: Mercer, thats Harey , not me. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Hate to tell you, nigga, but when you're coming on a website to discuss and criticize art... Harvey, we're all adults. Dont give an opinion and expect someone not to disagree if what you said is horse shit. You know it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Wallbanger Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 this style , although something I enjoy,doesnt rep graffiti like you say in your argument Harvy. Theres not one bit of "graffiti" in it, other then drips, which is another argument in itself. Not one bit of graffiti? Sorry, that's ludicrous. I don't know how old you are, but it sounds like you don't have any memory of the art world prior to Twist's entry into it. That wall is drips, buff marks, spray paint, graffiti characters... literally NONE of that stuff was showing up in museums in 1990. People take those techniques and stylistic elements for granted now in a post Juxtapoz magazine, Saber-has-a-blog world, but Twist was the first to bring that aesthetic to the "art" world. again,not an inkling of graffiti. Agreed, not graffiti. Is this what you were hoping for on the wall? The whole point of this stuff was to experiment with abstraction, and be visually jarring, confusing, or overwhelming to the viewer. It contributes to the sensory overload that Barry's always tried to create with his shows. But it's been done enough that it wouldn't have had that same impact on the Bowery wall. I'm glad he didn't just do another one of these. this has some covered tags, I think Im speaking for everyone who was anticipating "Barry Mcgee" ( not twist publically anymore by the way, so much for the Graff down your throat concept )... So because cluless bloggers all called this a Barry Mcgee wall, rather than a Twist wall, those tags aren't graffiti? ...then to see him come to ny and do tags? Im not the only one that said "Big Deal" trust me, I just happen to be the only one in here who bothers to talk about it. To many people are just cheerleaders and cant admit when a guy with a history of amazing work does some boring ass shit and half stepped. Having a different opinion is not the same thing as "not being able to admit" that your opinion is right. I think this wall is one of the freshest ideas I've seen in a while. Fine, you think those dudes half-stepped. Make sure to let them know next time you see them, I'm sure they'll lose sleep over it. Better yet, go diss the wall if you don't respect it. That's what a REAL NEW YORKER would do, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 hahah, youre catching feeling Harvey. come on, I expected more mature debate from you. You jumped right to "go diss it if youre real" and "tell them in person" cliche'. you only proved my cheerleader comment more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twonpoo Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 I dont care what you, or anyone says to me about opinions, I know quality work when I see it, even if I dont like the person doing it, if they rock the house, Ill give it up , not a prob for me. And at the same time even if I do like the person, and they half step, I can tell them they are, instead of them sitting in a room of yesmen cheerleaders praising low quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareOnElmStreet Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 The wall is cool because it's in everyone's face. Os Gemeos are fucking rad, but they've been rocking a style for years that the public finds entirely non threatening, and doesn't really associate with graffiti. Shepard Fairey falls under a similar umbrella-- fifteen years ago, people were genuinely puzzled and even made uncomfortable by the huge faces he was putting up, but that's obviously changed in the past decade. That most recent mural seemed like it was there so Herbert and Elaine Outoftowner could drive by and say "hey, the Obama guy!" Twist, on the other hand, has been doing shit heavily based in graffiti all along, but has always done so with enough universal appeal that he's managed to create a fanbase in the art world. Now they offered him this wall, (which a lot of New Yorkers very much consider theirs, and a place they expect to see beautiful murals) and instead of trying to expand his fan base by doing the faces that everyone wants to see, he basically said "okay, this is what you get: pure, raw graffiti." Something that most people are still going to find somewhat threatening. Something people aren't going to be able to explain, or understand, or know what to do with. And it's right in their fucking faces, and that's awesome. /coolartanalysisbro ^THIS. end conversation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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