blahblahblah Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Originally posted by Average White Railfan first of all this aint to diss euro writers...or austrailian writers on a whole. in fact i like austrailin graff more than euro most times. if you ever painted freights in american cities where its ill to paint freights because of rail cops, city cops gangbangers and crackheads in the yard you would keep your bloddy dicksucker shut. second of all you cant tell me its not chill in some of those overseas passenger layups when you have kids doing 4 and 5 whole cars at a time. if you can chill somewhere for the 3 or 4 hours it takes to do some of the overseas shit ive seen, than pretty safe to assume its a chill spot. third of all we dont paint 'passanger/commuter trains' in america not because its too hard or too hot, and cretianly not because american writers are not skilled enough (honor your mother and father), but because it gets buffed instantly. never seen a fuckin full on color burner on a bilboard 100 feet in the air in europe or australia either and even if i see 5 or 10, its still no comp to the hundreds, perhaps thousands that american writers have done over the years. now is that because you lack the skills or balls? the passenger trains had its time in america (remember thats where you got it from) and they still get hit, believe it. it just dosent run. just cause austrailian freights are lame as fuck dont mean you know shit about these fr8 trains over here. man its great you can pull off big whole cars on passenger trains and have them run, sometimes for years. im real happy for you all, really. but dont front like every layup overseas is hot as hell, cause i know writers in and from europe and australia, and i know american writers who have been there who walked right into yards and painted. the shit yall are so proud of now was done in cities like philly, nyc, and chicago, years ago. its to a large degree pointless for us to go out and hit a lot of amtrack trains or subways in our cities because it simply wont run. no matter how much they get bombed, they will eventually get buffed, a lot quicker than they will overseas. i dont think graff should only be in america, even though i happen to personally like american graffiti better, i think writing belongs to everyone. but what sucks is these stuck up foreigners who think there gods gift to graffiti because they have paint taylored for writers, short fences and steel catwalks in the yard, trains that get cleaned once every six months, an endless variety of custom caps that simplify piecing a great deal and a society that is a lot more tolerant of graffiti than america will ever be. ps. this aint to inspire no euro/aussie-vs-america bullshit...because theres no comp! he said it better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 :( it's all about the graf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 great post keep em coming p.s eckie i painted that wall in murrumbeen the one that got capped by those toys. It will be white washed for a while so dont tag/piece over it ok? and tell abr not to cap it ! haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ego trippin Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 wca fuck these guys burn http://freephoto-i.net/users/supo/wca.jpg'> dier, that better not be my spot you're painting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Originally posted by Average White Railfan first of all this aint to diss euro writers...or austrailian writers on a whole. in fact i like austrailin graff more than euro most times. if you ever painted freights in american cities where its ill to paint freights because of rail cops, city cops gangbangers and crackheads in the yard you would keep your bloddy dicksucker shut. second of all you cant tell me its not chill in some of those overseas passenger layups when you have kids doing 4 and 5 whole cars at a time. if you can chill somewhere for the 3 or 4 hours it takes to do some of the overseas shit ive seen, than pretty safe to assume its a chill spot. third of all we dont paint 'passanger/commuter trains' in america not because its too hard or too hot, and cretianly not because american writers are not skilled enough (honor your mother and father), but because it gets buffed instantly. never seen a fuckin full on color burner on a bilboard 100 feet in the air in europe or australia either and even if i see 5 or 10, its still no comp to the hundreds, perhaps thousands that american writers have done over the years. now is that because you lack the skills or balls? the passenger trains had its time in america (remember thats where you got it from) and they still get hit, believe it. it just dosent run. just cause austrailian freights are lame as fuck dont mean you know shit about these fr8 trains over here. man its great you can pull off big whole cars on passenger trains and have them run, sometimes for years. im real happy for you all, really. but dont front like every layup overseas is hot as hell, cause i know writers in and from europe and australia, and i know american writers who have been there who walked right into yards and painted. the shit yall are so proud of now was done in cities like philly, nyc, and chicago, years ago. its to a large degree pointless for us to go out and hit a lot of amtrack trains or subways in our cities because it simply wont run. no matter how much they get bombed, they will eventually get buffed, a lot quicker than they will overseas. i dont think graff should only be in america, even though i happen to personally like american graffiti better, i think writing belongs to everyone. but what sucks is these stuck up foreigners who think there gods gift to graffiti because they have paint taylored for writers, short fences and steel catwalks in the yard, trains that get cleaned once every six months, an endless variety of custom caps that simplify piecing a great deal and a society that is a lot more tolerant of graffiti than america will ever be. ps. this aint to inspire no euro/aussie-vs-america bullshit...because theres no comp! the truth is america is the best graff country but i hate seeing americans start shit and every time this argument starts its because of some ignorant americans stupid comment. you cant chill in the yards usually for more than 40 minutes...the yards here are not chill at all. the whole cars get done within this time. austalia hasn't got any tailored paint,steel catwalks or short fences. i wish we could all get our facts straight. but i cant be fucked arguing if you want to find out what the yards are like here ask someone else cause i cant be fucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 i donno what spot is your spot? hit me back coz i allready half white washed it today. its the wall between murrumbeena and hughesdale. I white washed a fair bit coz its all been capped and other ppl are piecing with me. hope it isnt ur spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/007-21a.jpg'> NASTE PUZLE BIAS REACH HIGHER Might post some of the older stuff next... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ego trippin Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 dier thats not my spot, but i might paint it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 escape post a reply with like 6 puzles all different styles because all of them are fucking nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Nah man dont be a cunt ... dont dog me out allright? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 Watch evolution in action :) http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/001-15.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/005-01.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/006-21.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/013-10.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/024-09.jpg'> http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/029-12.jpg'> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 Originally posted by diertwo Nah man dont be a cunt im getting better ... my other pieces were totally shit but i been practicing a fair bit and now i got myself some can control. so dont dog me out allright? easy thing to do even though you might not get as much coverage is to keep your same spot and go over it a few times over a few months so when your happy with it, then it wont get capped for a while and it doesn't make the lines look shit. if you do a crap peice then your going to get capped especially if its a sick spot so before claiming mad spots get some style and paint skills and land yourself a nice peice. and when you get better you can cap all the toys that come into the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idonotlikeu Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 that fucken shit is hot.. clean as fuck.. that guy puzle is dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 its not a sick so yeah..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 everyone of the puzles except the first have a really nice original style plus it keeps changing. the best would have to be the peice at burnly madest puzle i've seen yet totally original. http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/049-08.jpg'> another one when are you going to put up the reach and duel and dier i havn't even scene it, just clame one good spot if you can and do that for a bit maybe 2 or 3 peices. making sure the one you want to stick has bright colours they turn off other graffers from capping it unless the peice is totaly wack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 has anyone seen the dmote and duel at burnley? there are others too but the duel and dmote were the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abracadabra Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 could somebody post a puzle piece that looks bad, cos i don't think he's ever done one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilistic Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 one of my favourite aussie crews bump for puzhell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 this one here is best puzle ive seen..http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/083-12.jpg'> escape there is also a puzle and dmote peiced up truck down coppin street (i think) in rich mond check it out my mates say its really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/020-05.jpg'> Even the dubs work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 well with those two spots to check (and quite a few others I haven't been back to in a while) it looks like I'll be pretty busy getting photos this weekend... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 i'll tell you a few other mad wca stuff you dont have first the one down lord street inn richmond near the hellicopter if you go down that lane you will come to the road. theres another really good one under the bridge between clifton hill and westgarth stations i'm not talking about the reach servil and dens one. you should check out some more stuff from the belgrave lillydale line up towards camberwell and chatham station. also really good wca trackside under a bridge wasp and plan one bridge closer to hawthorn than this one http://www.graffiti.org/escapism/images/071-03a.jpg'> trust me its worth getting it's like a production with a mad background-the walks easy you wont get hit by a train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 the one under the bridge at clifton hill -- you mean the starwars one or has that been repainted?? and as for the one closer to hawthorn -- I've been meaning to check it out but I'd better haul ass before it gets washed :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinsah Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 don't 4get the sydney DMA. AND aka.prinsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :dazed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 escape do u get photos from other ppl or are they all fliks youve taken?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ctsaRgay Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 theres a 3d reach dens and nasty down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 99% of the wall flicks I have on my site are taken by me -- I occasionally get people like IVO sending stuff in, as well as a few anonymous mails now and then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diertwo Posted January 8, 2002 Share Posted January 8, 2002 When you next updating coz i got a few fliks (not of my work) that i could send in. i went to north melbourne yards and my friend got some fliks of send dorps and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
escapeMELB Posted January 8, 2002 Author Share Posted January 8, 2002 Next update is on 14/1... if you have stuff to send go right ahead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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